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When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:25 pm 
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Italian's on the rare side

Great little pics of obscure WW2 AC to be found there. Snoop around, worth while.

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/

The only pic I found on the WEB of:

DB Powered FIAT CR.42DB FALCO
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The Italian Zero... UMBRA T.18
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The Italian twin mustang concept(s):
SAVOIA-MARCHETTI SM.92
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BESTETTI-NARDI BN.1
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How hot does your a##ss get's sitting on top of the engine ? SAVOIA-MARCHETTI SM.93
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Move the cockpit closer to the nose: BREDA BA.201
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Just to prove the Brits do not have exclusivity on complex engines: CAPRONI VIZZOLA F.6Z WITH 24 CYLINDER ZETA ENGINE
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Cool pics. Interesting to see some of the more obscure designs. From the title I was thinking this thread was about Tony Danza.

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...was not just wasted on their cars.
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the bipe is not a cr 42, as it was a radial. but looks like a type found in iraq recently within the last year. the others i've never seen nor heard of & look forward to the feedback / info.

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tom d. friedman wrote:
the bipe is not a cr 42, as it was a radial.

It's a modefied CR-42, with an inline...
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but looks like a type found in iraq recently within the last year.

You're thinking of the IMAM Ro 37s found in Afghanistan?

http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v4/v4n1-2/ro37.html

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hi james, yes i'm talking about those bird carcasses in afghanistan, wrong country go figure. i wasn't aware the italians modified the cr 42 to liquid cooled engines. experimental?? or operational?? that was the 1st pic i've seen with that configuration & those lines. please elaborate!!

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tom d. friedman wrote:
hi james, yes i'm talking about those bird carcasses in afghanistan, wrong country go figure.

(I checked before posting... ;) )

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i wasn't aware the italians modified the cr 42 to liquid cooled engines. experimental?? or operational?? that was the 1st pic i've seen with that configuration & those lines. please elaborate!!

Experimental, not operational. Now you know as much as I do. However:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_CR.42
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...the CR.42B, an attempt to improve the type's performance by installing a Daimler-Benz DB601A in-line engine of 1,010 hp.[2] Although this variant reached a top speed of 323 mph (518 km/h), the project was cancelled as the biplane configuration did not offer any advantages over contemporary fighter designs.


http://www.comandosupremo.com/Cr42.html

And our hoped-for flyer:
http://www.fighter-collection.com/pages ... /index.php

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that was the 1st pic i've seen with that configuration & those lines. please elaborate!!

I was surprised also Tom. Hence the post 8)

I've searched the web but still did not find other pics of it.

I think it has some nice lines compared to it's radial sibling.

I've always had a weak spot for the obscure. :lol:


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That SM 92 is a wierd one , look at the picture from wiki, the pod on the tail for the remotly controlled rear gun !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.92


Was mistaken for a p38 .....


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