Brewster Buffalo

A2C · **Posted:** Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:52 pm

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From what I remember reading in the past, some shady business guy smuggled it out of Russia and after some years it somehow ended up in the NMNA. I applaud them for loaning it to the Fins. It belongs there.

Why are the businessmen always the shady bad guys (EVILLL CAPITALISTS), and the people who demand their piece of the pie the good guys?

airnutz · **Posted:** Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:59 pm

Steve wrote:

Airnutz thanks for the link explains alot.

and no I don't think the Navy needs to put it back, just not claim what belongs to another countries history.

Steve

Well, since BW-372 rested in what was technically in Russian territory and later was for sale on the open market, the
ownership of that aircraft and the preservation of its history was up for grabs. The new owner could have done
anything they wanted to with their property. Regardless how messy the whole deal got, it seems to have reached
a happy medium for BW-372.

Owen Miller · **Joined:** Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:28 pm **Posts:** 614

Below are links to photos of BW-372 in Pensacola.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/2133415 ... host=rides

http://rides.webshots.com/album/234043341JfVLwL

airnutz · **Posted:** Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:12 pm

A2C wrote:

Quote:

From what I remember reading in the past, some shady business guy smuggled it out of Russia and after some years it somehow ended up in the NMNA. I applaud them for loaning it to the Fins. It belongs there.

Why are the businessmen always the shady bad guys (EVILLL CAPITALISTS), and the people who demand their piece of the pie the good guys?

As DaveM2 noted earlier, because Col. Pekuri and his daughter(?) Marja invested time and money in getting the
bidness man to where he needed to be..only to be screwed outta the deal?

It wasn't smuggled out of Russia. A lot of rubles traded hands for the proper credentials, gained I'm sure by
by GV's "new" partners. :roll:

Really A2C..give the tale a read...Hollywood ain't got nuthin' on this story! :wink:

Forgotten Field · **Posted:** Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:31 pm

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Why are the businessmen always the shady bad guys (EVILLL CAPITALISTS), and the people who demand their piece of the pie the good guys?

You know, people always conveniently forget thast usually, in such an aircraft sale, there is a PURCHASER who also agrees to pay that price. If there were no such thing as a purchaser, these filthy speculators would be gone. See, all we need to do is petition our new CIC here in the US to regulate all aircraft recoveries in the world and designate the USN as the agency in charge of recovery. The prices could then be fixed in congressional debate, maybe attached to an earmark in an appropriations bill, and those evil speculators will be out of business. Of course, there would have to be a bill to offset the losses of all the speculators (people like me) and subsidize us while training us to do new jobs. Personally, I would rather do shrubbery and gardening instead of grubbing warbird parts. But, hey, we all have our own personal he((s, don't we! It's such a tragic thing to see all those years of perspiration looking for something turn out to only be cash... and flying aircraft or rare preserved planes. So... what do I want to say?... I guess words don't quite express it...

Signed,
Future Shrubber and Gardener, if you pay for it...

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:33 pm

All will be revealed in a book that is to be published in English written by Pekuri's daughter (Marja) and one of the original US & Russian investors. I have the draft and last I talked to Marja she was flying to the UK to meet with the potential publisher late in 2008. As airnutz said, even knowing part of the story is like reading a cold war thriller :shock:

Dave

Dave Hackett · **Posted:** Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:36 pm

Did you say shrubbery? What is your name? What is your quest?

Sorry FF, had a Monty Python moment!

dave

EXPAT0149 · **Joined:** Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:44 am **Posts:** 163

Dan K · **Posted:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:02 am

EXPAT0149 wrote:

nee

Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say "Nee" at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred...

John Dupre · **Posted:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:28 am

airnutz wrote:

Again Nathan, it was/is the last easily attainable Buffalo. There are none known other than in the ocean.

Isn't there a persistent rumor of a Marine F2A in a swamp somewhere?

Dan K · **Posted:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:11 am

John Dupre wrote:

airnutz wrote:

Again Nathan, it was/is the last easily attainable Buffalo. There are none known other than in the ocean.

Isn't there a persistent rumor of a Marine F2A in a swamp somewhere?

And don't forget that Earl Reinert's Buffalo is hidden under the floorboards of some old barn in Wisconsin. I've recently narrowed my old Wisconsin barn search down to around 17,000 (Don't worry, I'll post pics at WIX as soon as I find her). :wink:

While you're waiting, how about a few more pics from Finland:

http://www.fsnordic.net/discussion/inde ... =75987.100

TAdan · **Posted:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:05 am

Glad to see the plane conserved and on display in Finland.

AirJimL2 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:19 am

What about the one at MAPS in Akron? :roll:

Jim

http://www.visitcantonstark.com/Group-Tours/Buggies-Buicks-Balls-Berries-Bags-Bombers-Burgers-and-Caboose-Tour.php

Forgotten Field · **Posted:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:06 am

I am more of a natural trees and wild vines kind of person. I just want the government to pay me to plant shrubbery. Sort of my own WPA/TVA/CCC experience, at your expense...

old iron · **Posted:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:12 pm

Not sure about the Buffalo at MAPS in Ohio - presumably either a repro or a few parts - bu there is an attractive reproduction at the Cradle of Aviation Museum http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/CradleOfAviationMuseum/BrewsterF2A2Buffalo/index.htm.

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