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        Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:40 am
		
			
			Hello Folks:
Anyone know how to put drain hole fasteners in on fabric covered surfaces?  Anyone have nomenclature for this?
Thanks,
			
		
	 
	
        
        Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:33 am
		
			
			Its called a grommet, and they are usually doped on to the clear coats under the pigmented coats.
			
		
	 
	
        
        Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:35 am
		
			
			Glue the grommets in like DZ says.  There are two types, plain round, and sea plane grommets that have a reverse scoop on them.  After you complete the flying surface you burn through the fabric (If man made) with a soldering iron.
			
		
	 
	
        
        Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:33 pm
		
			
			Hello Folks:
That's good to know, but what's used when you want to go through 1 layer of fabric and 1 layer of sheet metal?  Thanks a lot.
			
		
	 
	
        
        Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:41 pm
		
			
			A2C wrote:Hello Folks:
That's good to know, but what's used when you want to go through 1 layer of fabric and 1 layer of sheet metal?  Thanks a lot.
Drill bit,  just go slow through the fabric where the gromet is.
			
		
 
	 
	
        
        Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:30 pm
		
			
			Hi Jeff:
No, that's not it.  It's looks like a rivnut that fastens the farbic to the metal.  I was just wondering it there is something else used that looks a little like a rivnut.
Thanks
			
		
	 
	
        
        Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:49 pm
		
			
			This is on a T-6? Do you have a photo of the area?
			
		
	 
	
        
        Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:34 pm
		
			
			Move the grommet away from the metal  (or just glue another on)
			
		
	 
	
        
        Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:54 pm
		
			
			Can't be done.  Basicly it's similar to a rivnut.
			
		
	 
	
        
        Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:48 pm
		
			
			On a T-6?  Doesn't sound familar, like BDK says send photo and prove us wrong.
			
		
	 
	
        
        Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:05 am
		
			
			Sorry too lazy to take a picture..I don't want to prove anything, just needed an answer to that.  I think I'll call my hardware supplier, and see if he knows.
Thanks!
			
		
	 
	
        
        Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:43 am
		
			
			For the Acceptable Method, consult the AC 43.13-1B; Section 2-14 "Inspection Rings and Drain Grommets". Found on Pages 2-22 and 2-23.
If you don't have the text, it can be downloaded from the FAA website for free. If downloading just the chapter needed, it would be "Chapter Two- Fabric Covering."
			
		
	 
	
        
        Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:48 pm
		
			
			Also, if you are using Poly Fiber, you can use poly tack to put the grommet up and a small soldering iron to burn a hole through the fabric.  If the fabric is on sheet metal, you may not even need a grommet.  consult the poly-fiber book.
			
		
	 
	
        
        Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:25 pm
		
			
			Suggest you not use grommets. Just use soldering iron to make hole. Over time, the grommets come unstuck. Grommet are a carry over from the cotton days.
			
		
	 
	
        
        Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:01 pm
		
			
			I hate to say it, but all the responses miss the mark.  The fabric is over metal.  The metal is enclosed, and so the drain hole is similar to a rivnut and goes through the fabric and metal.  All I was asking is if anyone knows excactly the type of fastener/drain reinforcement used.
			
		
	 
	
	
	
	    
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