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Let's go back to the Wright brothers and their careful step by step approach on the way to creating the worlds first successful heavier than air flying machine. No guns, no military, no females with unbelievable superstructures, just a careful and accurate re-creation of real events.


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iron eagle 4??? don't even joke herr inspector!!

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How about something from the Alaskan Aleutian campaign? A lot of beautiful cinematography to shoot against the wild of Alaska. The hardships of just being there, not knowing just where the enemy was or what they were up against. Not knowing if you could land at your airfield (or even find it for that matter) once you had taken off. The muck, the cold..........Cats, P-40's, P-39's and Poons.......gotta be a good story in there. And like they said about the place, "there's a girl behind every tree...problem being, there were NO TREES!"


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Let's go back to the Wright brothers and their careful step by step approach on the way to creating the worlds first successful heavier than air flying machine. No guns, no military, no females with unbelievable superstructures, just a careful and accurate re-creation of real events.


Glyn, about 2-3 years ago, there was a great documentary ( almost a movie actually....but closer to a story being told ) on the brothers, their life & accomplishments.

The great thing about was the tone used & nothing "over" emphasized.


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tom d. friedman wrote:
iron eagle 4??? don't even joke herr inspector!!


You're about 14 years too late! :P

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Michel Lemieux wrote:

Glyn, about 2-3 years ago, there was a great documentary ( almost a movie actually....but closer to a story being told ) on the brothers, their life & accomplishments.

The great thing about was the tone used & nothing "over" emphasized.


Thank you, Michel. :) I sincerely hope they show it on this side of the pond.


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Mad Eagle, Return to Thunder Warrior?
All the elements are there, a disgraced Rabbi flying a Bf-109, the crusty old Brit and his 'trusty' Spit-,
drug crazed aboriginal tribal types riding fuel tanker trucks and driving 9 wheeled cut down station wagons that should make it at least as good as any of the I.E. flix or whatever that cartoonish thing with Agelina Joile and the CGI P-40's was, it might even approach PEARL HARBOR's cinematic excellence and attention to detail-and be nearly as true to the story as MEMPHIS BELLE was

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Two ideas that I think are pretty great (of course, they're mine! :D )

1. A screen adaptation of "Whip", by Caiden. The flyers available today would make this a great one.

2. A screen bio of Adolph Galland. I'm thinking that there are also enough flying examples of many/most of the aircraft that would be part of the story to make it one h3ll of a film.


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One of my all time favorites!!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 27766.html

I loved Stalag 17, The Great Escape and airplanes.., here is the hybrid story!!!

What a great movie this would make!!!!!

In 2000 a BBC news crew built a full size version of this and successfully flew her in front of several dozen survivors who worked on the original glider!!! They were all jumping up and down and cheering!

What a great story!!!!! :shock:

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The South Pacific is just waiting for a movie. be it B-25s, Corsairs, Heckcats, or, while on the cats theme, "The Black Cats"! Though two hours of night operations might put people to sleep!! They did daylight rescue as well! There are enough cats around to do it, and they rubbed elbows with lots of other AC as well.
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I'd like to see a film done on the Amiens prison raid, but we all want to see that, right?

A follow up to Dambusters would be great to show the men of No. 617 Squadron involved in their other big raids of the war, such as sinking the Tirpitz.

Biopics of kiwi pilots I'd love to see made into films include Colin Gray, Al Deere, Chalky White (based on the book Pilot On The Run), Johnny Checketts, Fred Ladd, Popeye Lucas, Grid Caldwell, Geoff Fisken. Mick Herrick, Bob Spurdle and the extaordinary yet almost unknown pilot Eric Griffiths. most of you have probably no idea who most of these guys were.

All the talk about the low level B-25 raid film sounds good as our RNZAF Venturas often accompanied US B-25's on raids, especially on Rabaul.

As for a new film on the Flying Tigers, at least the film makers won't have to repaint many P-40's, most of the flying US-based ones are in that scheme already. :D But are you saying the John Wayne film wasn't very accurate? :shock: :o

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Thanks Tom, just had that Cat Scratch Fever going and had to do another Cat!!

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This is something I don't understand about the "creative" types. You take an iconic story and film and remake it. Your effort is bound to suffer by comparison in some way. So why not look for a similar story that hasn't been told? Now you can make something perhaps complimentary to the original film and no one can accuse you of mucking up the original. Why copy when you can create? I like the idea of a film about destroying the Tirpitz. It has all the elements of Dambusters but in a different and highly photogenic setting. And it is a story that hasn't been told on film. You could even use your effects and CGI guys to make the planes from the raids that tried and failed as you lead up to the successful raid.

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John Dupre wrote:
This is something I don't understand about the "creative" types. You take an iconic story and film and remake it. Your effort is bound to suffer by comparison in some way. So why not look for a similar story that hasn't been told?


I see your point but one of the selling points for the marketing people in films is familiarity I guess. If something is already known about, such as a previous classic book or film based on the same story you're now making, half of your marketing is already done. In the case of Dambusters the story is unique and is a great story, and I see no reason why not to remake it for a new generation with up to date film techniques. But I do agree there are hundreds, thousands of other interesting Bomber Command stories out there with an equal amount of courage, uniqueness and drama that could be made. Sadly the people funding these films don't want to invest in an unknown quantity as readily as a known classic tale.

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I like the idea of a film about destroying the Tirpitz. It has all the elements of Dambusters but in a different and highly photogenic setting. And it is a story that hasn't been told on film. You could even use your effects and CGI guys to make the planes from the raids that tried and failed as you lead up to the successful raid.


Indeed, you could cover the Swordfish attacks and all the other bits plus Barnes Wallis creating the bombs and the raid flown by the two squadrons from Russia, etc. Lots of interesting stuff in this story and I think it would make a fantastic sequal to Dambusters (2010). Some of the same actors and characters would be involved too I guess.

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