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Sad Ending For a Flying Fort

Tue May 05, 2009 7:58 pm

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B-17F s/n 42-29807 "Liberty Lady" 364th BS 305th BG.
Shot down by a FW-190 flown by Obstlt Josef Priller JG 26.
8 KIA and 2 POWs :(

Tue May 05, 2009 8:48 pm

True heroes.

Tue May 05, 2009 10:14 pm

Shot down by a FW-190 flown by Obstlt Josef Priller JG 26.


Priller together with another pilot whose name I don't remember, were the only two Luftwaffe pilots to fly and attack the landing troops in Normandy on 6 June 44.


Saludos,


Tulio

Re: Sad Ending For a Flying Fort

Wed May 06, 2009 2:28 am

Jack Cook wrote:Image
B-17F s/n 42-29807 "Liberty Lady" 364th BS 305th BG.
Shot down by a FW-190 flown by Obstlt Josef Priller JG 26.


Only confirmed ID of a 305th B-17 on Priller's victory list was his 93rd on 19th Aug '43, so pressume this is the one...??

Wed May 06, 2009 6:50 am

Pips Priller is also one of the few German aces to get all his victories (101)against the western allies. He supposedly kept a map of Northern France to Southern England and marked every claim he made. The RAF studied his map against known losses by date and area and confirmed most of his claims as legitimate. I believe he shot down something like 50 Spitfires!

Wed May 06, 2009 6:55 am

John Dupre wrote:Pips Priller is also one of the few German aces to get all his victories (101)against the western allies. He supposedly kept a map of Northern France to Southern England and marked every claim he made. The RAF studied his map against known losses by date and area and confirmed most of his claims as legitimate. I believe he shot down something like 50 Spitfires!


68 of Pips Priller's total of 101 were Spitfires, making him the most successfull Luftwaffe pilot against Spit's.

Wed May 06, 2009 10:58 am

Anyone have any markings of Priller's FW190's?

Wed May 06, 2009 11:08 am

Google up his name and Fw190, there are lots of pics. Bf109 as well as the Fw190. Here is a pretty good overview of his "Career"
http://www.luftwaffe.cz/priller.html

Wed May 06, 2009 11:41 am

Ah yes!!! .... how could I have forgot good old 'Google' ... thx. good stuff ...

Wed May 06, 2009 3:16 pm

The man had a list didnt he...sheesh! Spitfires, Hurricanes, Blenheims, a curtis ??, 17's, 24's , 25's & 47's, 51's, 38's & a Ventura! Looks like several kills were in the evening and night hours. :shock:

Wed May 06, 2009 3:23 pm

Did anyone take notice of the interesting "different" AF markings on the B-17? Was this one with the yellow bars and red surround? Or is it the white with white and red around?

Wed May 06, 2009 3:29 pm

Dang proxys here at work, I cant see the pic..have to wait till later.

Wed May 06, 2009 3:38 pm

Only 2 P-47s and 2 P-51s, and 1 P-38.

Pretty impressive tally.

Wed May 06, 2009 4:55 pm

Django wrote:Only 2 P-47s and 2 P-51s, and 1 P-38.


Not unusual for the few ‘early war Channel Front vs. RAF’ veterans that managed to survive in combat long enough to do battle with the USAAF formations, or indeed fell victim to the USAAF, such as Sigi Schnell, Walter Oesau, Sepp Wurmheller, Egon Meyer, Emil Lang etc. Priller was already JG26 Kommodore by the beginning of ’43 and had scored 77 of his final 101 before claiming his first USAAF a/c in Dec 42, and was likely not flying as much combat sorties by then. Contrast, Priller’s record with Georg Peter-Eder’s Channel Front tally of almost 70 scored in his two years from early 43 to early 45, virually all being USAAF a/c, and who was the leading Luftwaffe pilot against the USAAF.

One of my collection of wartime personally signed Hoffmann/Verlag portrait photopostcards, and probably the best condition one, is one of Pips Priller.

Wed May 06, 2009 5:17 pm

Was this one with the yellow bars and red surround? Or is it the white with white and red around?


Looks like the standard summer 1943 red-surround insignia to me. The only instance I ever heard of with yellow bars was on a C-47, and I understand that was somebody misinterperating a tech order.

The fuselage codes are bizarre looking, though. Not sure if it's an attempt at "low viz," or new codes painted or old ones.

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