UFOs/Warbirds

[Jimmy]

Did you hear about this?

http://www.rense.com/general41/flying.htm

[Elwyn]

Definitely doesn't look very large whatever it is. Since it appears to be between the camera and the fighters it looks like it could be anywhere from frisbee sized to 10-15 feet wide.

[Michel Lemieux]

Try this on the PF board

A lot of these folks must have went to that show

[HarvardIV]

Ok, the astronaut Gordon Cooper claims that he chased a formation of them in the 50's.

[Randy Haskin]

Looks suspiciously like a round mylar balloon to me.

[Elwyn]

It looks considerably flattened in one photo which would make me think it wasn't a balloon but the image is so small it's hard to say for sure. I guess a mylar ballon could could reflect parts of the sky and appear somewhat different than expected. Often interesting images turn out to be something very mundane. I remember seeing a video of a reported UFO that turned out to be a reglar plane a long way off. The way the light was reflected off the wings made the wings practically invisible. If this UFO was so noticeable and unusual you would think more would have been said about it at the time instead of two years later.

[RareBear]

Some mylar balloons are not round, but flattened on the sides, sort of like a large donut without the hole. They are typically seen with something printed on them, which could account for areas of dark and light on the sides. The majority I have seen are about 24" in diameter, but there are some larger ones.

Walt

[tom d. friedman]

I think somebody threw the beatles white album at the same time as the warbirds past by honestly.... i'm fascinated with ufo's & black projects etc, i certainly believe we are not alone in the universe, but why oh why oh why???? must these sightings always be so damned blurry it's been like this since roswell but you'd think it would be different today, that just 1 clear pic could be obtained with all the computer photo technology & picture enhancement. it's aggravating & dissapointing to always hear of an incident & then lo & behold.... a blobby, blurry worthless picture backs up the sighting. hey maybe it was a wix emoticon doing aerial recon??? regards, tom

[HarvardIV]

Ha Ha Ha, Tom

My thoughts are, why are there more sitings now than in the old days when people used the stars for navigation and looked up for a long time?

I've also noticed a trend in the advent of digital cameras where people are claiming to see these after they get home and download their pictures. Does that imply that these vehicles travel quite fast, so that they are almost invisible? I guess if they want to talk to us bad enough they could become Wixers..

[AndyG]

I think somebody threw the beatles white album at the same time as the warbirds past by honestly.... i'm fascinated with ufo's & black projects etc, i certainly believe we are not alone in the universe, but why oh why oh why???? must these sightings always be so damned blurry it's been like this since roswell but you'd think it would be different today, that just 1 clear pic could be obtained with all the computer photo technology & picture enhancement. it's aggravating & dissapointing to always hear of an incident & then lo & behold.... a blobby, blurry worthless picture backs up the sighting. hey maybe it was a wix emoticon doing aerial recon??? regards, tom

Quite a few of these sightings appear in the media via a cam corder route. Video is more exciting for ratings than a still picture. Cam corders pixel resolution is quite poor when a distant object is zoomed in though the pixel ratings of camcorders is improving all the time.

Another thought to consider is this: If a small fraction of these sightings caught on cam are very real and of 'not of this world origin' and if these vehicles are transitting vast unimaginable vector distances in timescales which are well within an occupents lifespan, then I suggest that the power source utilised would have to utilise and modify the force we call gravity with some considerable skill. Perhaps the reason we see such morphing shapes reported and blurred images is that the 'gravity' power source of the vehicle is so strong locally that it causes light energy to be absorbed or deformed (in our eyes).

Everyones got their own opinions of course, but I get tired of the constant Govt sponsored denials and ridicule of anyone and everything concerning a subject which would be to our mutual benifit to understand and study very publically and out in the wider world too. For the very same blinkered reasons we are still in 2005 relying en mass upon internal combustion engines.

[HarvardIV]

Hi Andy:

Good point, the question I ask is why would "Gordo" Cooper risk his Air Force and Astronaut career in having claimed to have chased a formation on them over Germany? In fact he was dispatched by flight operations!

Another point of interest is the great number of digital photographers who are catching these things in the shutter, and not realizing it until they edit their photos. Does this imply that these are traveling so fast that they are very diffivult to detect with the naked eye? Kind of like you can't very well see a moving prop, but the camera give a blurred image.

[AndyG]

I know a couple of friends who both worked as controllers out of Jacksonville a few years back. Quite a few UFO tales to tell over the years. Very convincing, ordinary people who told the stories almost as an aside only after I asked them if anything unusual ever happened during their carreers.

An incident of an incredibly fast very very manouverable vehicle appearing from across the radar with a too fast trace shadowing a airliner in a position where the crew ought to have been able to see it clearly but couldn't then dissappearing at an abrupt tangent then speeding off in a manner that would make Kelly Johnson grey. Another incident where a Capt of another airliner was screaming near hysterically over the airways at the controllers about a huge manufactured airborne vehicle which was aggressively observing them from in front behind and all over. Never recorded on radar at all though. After the first incident mentioned, the radar tapes for that evening 'dissapeared' and any further discussion or mention was 'frowned' upon. Why? Why Why....

John Travolta was up in his Gulfstream one night and heard all the commotion about a UFO and asked to be vectored to the area. (so he could have a look around for himself) Just before the incident where he got himself in trouble after he buzzed his neighbours at very low level in one of his 'microlights'

I hope we are allowed to find out one day. Can it be that bad that we all need shielding from this?

[mjanovec]

Ha Ha Ha, Tom

My thoughts are, why are there more sitings now than in the old days when people used the stars for navigation and looked up for a long time?

I'm not a UFO expert, nor am I particularly a believer, but I think the theory put fourth is that UFOs were attracted to the Earth when "they" detected out ability to detonate nuclear weapons. It was supposedly enough to peak their interest in where we were technologically.

They were probably alarmed that such a primitive species could be so destructive.

[tom d. friedman]

klaattuu... vorada... nicktoe.... oooh.... oooohh.... ooohhh.... ooohhhh.... (add horror music!!!)

[TimAPNY]

If you're going after the Necrownomicon (sp?, or Book of the Dead) you need to say every syllable, Ash.