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Yesterday I visited Satenas in Sweden. Quite a few warbirds were on display (static+flying), including Hunter, Vampire, Lansen, Viggen, Draken, T-6 and B-17 (the Saab, not the Boeing!!!).

Check out a few of my photos from this event:
http://www.musante.dk/temp/satenas/

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Nicolai,

Very nice photos of types we seldom see over here.

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Very nice pics. Some stuff there Ive not seen before. Always enjoy the photos you Wixer's put up. One of these days I'll learn how to post pics myself. :spit2
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D@mn nice!

It's ignorance time here, forgive me. Whats the pointy T33 looking rig, and what's the Helldiver looking plane? I know I've seen something on that Helldiver plane somewhere before. Discovery channel maybe?


Very nice, Thanks a26invader!

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It's ignorance time here, forgive me. Whats the pointy T33 looking rig, and what's the Helldiver looking plane? I know I've seen something on that Helldiver plane somewhere before. Discovery channel maybe?



I'm guessing by 'pointy T33 looking rig' your refering to the Saab Lansen. (3rd,4th,5th & 9th photos)

And the 'Helldiver looking' aeroplane is a Saab B17. (7th photo)
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Firebird wrote:
O.P. wrote:

It's ignorance time here, forgive me. Whats the pointy T33 looking rig, and what's the Helldiver looking plane? I know I've seen something on that Helldiver plane somewhere before. Discovery channel maybe?



I'm guessing by 'pointy T33 looking rig' your refering to the Saab Lansen. (3rd,4th,5th & 9th photos)

And the 'Helldiver looking' aeroplane is a Saab B17. (7th photo)


Thank you Sir! Are the Saab Lansens still in service? If not, are they available? :D

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The Saab Lansen looks more like an F-86, just curious if, it like the Fiat G-91 was derived from the F-86?
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Noper Chris..the Lansen was an indigenous Swede design.

O.P...most were scrapped, there were 3 here in the states though.
A models, N5468x and N4432V at the US Airpower Museum www.aycsnetwork.com/
There was a 3rd, N4767R..may have gone to Britain. I'm not sure.

Very super photos a26invader!!! Thank-you!!

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Lansens are no longer in service, except for the example shown in the photos that is retained in airworthy status and operated by the Swedish Airforce Historic Flight.

Prototype first flew in 1952, with service entry of the first A models in 1955. These attack versions and the C recce version remained in Swedish AF service until 1978.

There were a small number of D (target towing) and E (ECM) models that remained in Swedish AF service until 1997.

The only examples outside of Sweden are the 3 examples mentioned that went to the USA, one of which, N5468X, was operated by Mach Two Flight Services Inc. All 3 were put up for sale in 1990. Not being sold, later as mentioned 2 were donated to the united States Airpower Museum.
Pretty sure all 3 are still in the USA....?

The only other 2 Lansens outside of Sweden are the one at Cranfield airfield, UK, flown in to the UK from Sweden in 1986, and the one flown from Sweden to Spain for the Spanish AF museum in 1999.
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Hi Guys,

There's some other Lansens abroad, One has been sent to the Norwegian museum in Bodö and is in storage there. It will be included in their new "cold war" exhibition. Also one Lansen has ended up in Austria FV32510. I guess there could be some others abroad too. Quite many are preserved in Sweden with hopefully one or more destined to fly again.

The SAAB J 29 Flying barrel was contemporary with the F 86. Together with the Mig 15, the F 86 and the J 29 were the first swept wing jet fighters in operational service. In Swedish aviation historical books the saying has it that Sweden aquired German research documents in Switzerland after the war and since they understood German better than the Americans they designed the SAAB 29 with swept wings from the outset, while the Americans designed the aircraft first with swept wings as the F 84. Don't know if it is true or if the Americans had gathered so much German language documents that they just couldn't go through it all... :P

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