Thu May 26, 2005 8:30 am
Thanks MikeH! I'll be around as work permits.
Christer - good question. I should say here I'm not a pilot or an engineer, but I do research a lot!
The famous accident was of G-FURY which crashed short of the runway at Waddington in the early 80s, IIRC, due to a massive engine failure, and nearly killed the owner / pilot. I understood that the stopped prop affected the glide rate; it it had still been going, he might have made the runway. Likewise the RNHF had their options curtailed when forced landing, but I'm not sure of the prop there - I'd ASSUMED that the prop was a factor in both: but I don't know!
I think Mike ('Mike'! ) might be able to add a bit to these comments?
Top speed I've got is 460mph, but no height given. My pilot's notes aren't to hand. The Reno machines, obviously work to different rules.
Incidentally, while checking, I found that the prototype Mk.X had a four blade prop - just like the US engined machines today, but going the other way!
No, Chris, the Fury and Sea Fury saw no action in W.W.II. If there'd been fighting in '46, the Allies had some nice machinery coming on stream! Martin Baker MB-5, Bearcat, Sea Fury, CAC C-15. Mmmmm.
Foreign users was Iraq, of course, Pakistan, Burma, and with full naval fit , Holland, Australia and Canada. Cuba, Morocco and Egypt had some too. Cuba's may have been used at the Bay of Pigs...
All the best,
Christer - good question. I should say here I'm not a pilot or an engineer, but I do research a lot!
The famous accident was of G-FURY which crashed short of the runway at Waddington in the early 80s, IIRC, due to a massive engine failure, and nearly killed the owner / pilot. I understood that the stopped prop affected the glide rate; it it had still been going, he might have made the runway. Likewise the RNHF had their options curtailed when forced landing, but I'm not sure of the prop there - I'd ASSUMED that the prop was a factor in both: but I don't know!
I think Mike ('Mike'! ) might be able to add a bit to these comments?
Top speed I've got is 460mph, but no height given. My pilot's notes aren't to hand. The Reno machines, obviously work to different rules.
Incidentally, while checking, I found that the prototype Mk.X had a four blade prop - just like the US engined machines today, but going the other way!
No, Chris, the Fury and Sea Fury saw no action in W.W.II. If there'd been fighting in '46, the Allies had some nice machinery coming on stream! Martin Baker MB-5, Bearcat, Sea Fury, CAC C-15. Mmmmm.
Foreign users was Iraq, of course, Pakistan, Burma, and with full naval fit , Holland, Australia and Canada. Cuba, Morocco and Egypt had some too. Cuba's may have been used at the Bay of Pigs...
All the best,
Thu May 26, 2005 8:37 am
You can add another mk20 with five blades to the list
http://www.controller.com/listings/forsale/detail.asp?OHID=1082391&dlr=1&guid=B913E5597EF642C198C747536384CDCC
Cheers
Tony
http://www.controller.com/listings/forsale/detail.asp?OHID=1082391&dlr=1&guid=B913E5597EF642C198C747536384CDCC
Cheers
Tony
Thu May 26, 2005 9:45 am
Is that the old John Sandburg/Dale Clarke-Dennis Firestone/Bob Guilford example?
Looks like the Polar aeroplane
Thu May 26, 2005 3:51 pm
With that nose art it looks like the old Wally Fisk aeroplane.
Phil
Phil
Thu May 26, 2005 4:13 pm
Here's our local Sea Fury. 
Thu May 26, 2005 4:58 pm
Raven,
neither am I a pilot of warbirds or any other powered aircraft but I am a glider pilot and gliders come with engines.
The variants are Touring Motor Glider (TMG), Self Launching Glider (SLG) and Self Sustaining Glider (SSG). SLG's and SSG's have retractable engines/propellers whereas TMG's are like any aircraft with a fixed propeller. When training landings in a TMG with the engine shut off, the procedure is to reduce speed until the propeller stops and then resume normal flying speed. The reason for this procedure is that the performance of the TMG gets better.
The propeller has the same frontal area exposed to the airstream, whether it is stopped, windmilling or under power. If under power, it adds energy to the air. If windmilling, it extracts enegy from the air. If stopped it does nothing but cause drag.
Well, that's our theory. It may be difficult to prove but we believe in it.
Christer
neither am I a pilot of warbirds or any other powered aircraft but I am a glider pilot and gliders come with engines.
The variants are Touring Motor Glider (TMG), Self Launching Glider (SLG) and Self Sustaining Glider (SSG). SLG's and SSG's have retractable engines/propellers whereas TMG's are like any aircraft with a fixed propeller. When training landings in a TMG with the engine shut off, the procedure is to reduce speed until the propeller stops and then resume normal flying speed. The reason for this procedure is that the performance of the TMG gets better.
The propeller has the same frontal area exposed to the airstream, whether it is stopped, windmilling or under power. If under power, it adds energy to the air. If windmilling, it extracts enegy from the air. If stopped it does nothing but cause drag.
Well, that's our theory. It may be difficult to prove but we believe in it.
Christer
Thu May 26, 2005 5:04 pm
The propeller has the same frontal area exposed to the airstream, whether it is stopped, windmilling or under power. If under power, it adds energy to the air. If windmilling, it extracts enegy from the air. If stopped it does nothing but cause drag.
Hi Christer:
That's no theory! You are correct. Don't worry, you've got a lot of users on this board who will let you know either way! Once in a while I'm wrong about something, and people let me know, cough cough aaaaahem..
Thu May 26, 2005 8:02 pm
Nice Seafury!
With the only authorized markings on this kind of aircraft : maple leaves!
With the only authorized markings on this kind of aircraft : maple leaves!
Fri May 27, 2005 3:21 am
Hi HarvardIV!
That's good to hear, both that I'm correct and that I'll be told if I'm wrong.
Christer
That's no theory! You are correct. Don't worry, you've got a lot of users on this board who will let you know either way! Once in a while I'm wrong about something, and people let me know, cough cough aaaaahem..
That's good to hear, both that I'm correct and that I'll be told if I'm wrong.
Christer
Fri May 27, 2005 9:38 am
N60SF sure looks good, who owns and operates her these days?
Fri May 27, 2005 12:04 pm
I believe Don Crowe still owns and operates it.
Fri May 27, 2005 2:22 pm
Mark V wrote:The John Bradshaw machine in the UK also flies with a Centaurus.
Mike wrote:As does the ex-OFMC one now in South Africa
Ellsworth Getchell's N260X should still have the appropriate powerplant. And the ex-Paul Morgan, Lloyd Hamilton a/c will still be Centaurus powered when its finished!
T J
Fri May 27, 2005 7:05 pm
I need to rant for a sec:
Rant on:
At the NAS Lemoore Airshow in 1997, Ellsworth Getchell flew his Fury in for the show. I took several pictures of the aircraft, along with 2 or 3 P-51D, TBM and a Lysander (90% sure it was one). AND the film company lost my film. So I have no pictures of those a/c. Chaps me to this day.
Rant off:
Thank you, I feel much better.
Rant on:
At the NAS Lemoore Airshow in 1997, Ellsworth Getchell flew his Fury in for the show. I took several pictures of the aircraft, along with 2 or 3 P-51D, TBM and a Lysander (90% sure it was one). AND the film company lost my film. So I have no pictures of those a/c. Chaps me to this day.
Rant off:
Thank you, I feel much better.