Real Hangar Flying

Dudley Henriques · **Posted:** Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:45 pm

Steve wrote:

This thread remindes me of the film "Piece of Cake" When they flew a spitfire thru a bridge. Does anyone know who did that ??

Steve

Yes. The Spitfire that flew under the Winston Bridge in Piece of Cake was flown by Ray Hanna.
Dudley Henriques

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Paul Mantz flew a Stearman through one of the hangars at Chino (Cal Aero Field) for Abbott & Costello's "Keep 'Em Flying." Since the hangars are so close together, I suspect he flew through all of them!

airnutz · **Posted:** Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:39 pm

Dudley Henriques wrote:

Jerry O'Neill wrote:

True, but the plane didn't actually fly through the hangar. They had a non-flying BD-5J mounted on a convertible with a pole. If you watch closely, as it "flies' through the hangar, you can see the pole .
They tried to disguise it by placing lots of objects in the foreground. It also allowed them to put Roger Moore ini the cockpit for those shots.
It worked well though.
I also liked the fight on the outside of the C-45!
Jerry

I have no idea where you got THIS incorrect information but I can ASSURE you Corkey Fornof flew a BD5J through the hangar for the Bond movie!
Dudley Henriques

Yes Dudley your correct and Corkey gave a good account of it in a Smithsonian Air & Space article last year about Bond
planes and stunts. I think the confusion comes from a misunderstanding that the "BD5J on a pole in a Jag " was solely
for the "inside the hangar flight scene" closeup. :wink:

Jerry O'Neill · **Posted:** Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:43 pm

Dudley Henriques wrote:

Jerry O'Neill wrote:

CAPFlyer wrote:

One of the most famous "hangar fly-throughs" is in the James Bond movie - "Octopussy". In the scene, "Corkey" Fornof (who has one of the more entertaining airshow performances going right now) flies a BD-5J "Microjet" through a hangar while being chased by a missile. The missile blows up in the hangar and "007" safely evades the danger flying out the hangar as it explodes.

True, but the plane didn't actually fly through the hangar. They had a non-flying BD-5J mounted on a convertible with a pole. If you watch closely, as it "flies' through the hangar, you can see the pole .
They tried to disguise it by placing lots of objects in the foreground. It also allowed them to put Roger Moore ini the cockpit for those shots.
It worked well though.
I also liked the fight on the outside of the C-45!
Jerry

I have no idea where you got THIS incorrect information but I can ASSURE you Corkey Fornof flew a BD5J through the hangar for the Bond movie!
Dudley Henriques

Then that is good. One more aircraft through the hangar!
They did use the car mounted BD-5J with Moore in it as he "flew" through the hangar.
I stand corrected on Corky's fly through.
Jerry

Dudley Henriques · **Posted:** Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:01 pm

airnutz wrote:

Dudley Henriques wrote:

Jerry O'Neill wrote:

True, but the plane didn't actually fly through the hangar. They had a non-flying BD-5J mounted on a convertible with a pole. If you watch closely, as it "flies' through the hangar, you can see the pole .
They tried to disguise it by placing lots of objects in the foreground. It also allowed them to put Roger Moore ini the cockpit for those shots.
It worked well though.
I also liked the fight on the outside of the C-45!
Jerry

I have no idea where you got THIS incorrect information but I can ASSURE you Corkey Fornof flew a BD5J through the hangar for the Bond movie!
Dudley Henriques

Yes Dudley your correct and Corkey gave a good account of it in a Smithsonian Air & Space article last year about Bond
planes and stunts. I think the confusion comes from a misunderstanding that the "BD5J on a pole in a Jag " was solely
for the "inside the hangar flight scene" closeup. :wink:

This is true. The movie crew used a prop Micro for the closeups with the actors. The long range shots of the Micro going through the hangar was set up and performed by Cork and his crew. It was a great stunt that took a great deal of prep work before they even attempted it. Cork correctly anticipated shock wave disruption off the walls of the hangar as he flew through. They brought in some REAL heavy physics people to do the numbers. They decided that opening the side windows of the hangar would release the pressure wave enough to give Corkey time to get through before the wave rebounded off the walls. This worked very well although Cork says he was just a BIT nervous as he approached the first open door on the shot run .
Cork is still flying and doing fine. As we speak he's demonstrating for Lo Presti Aviation with their new Fury.
Dudley Henriques

Jerry O'Neill · **Posted:** Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:33 pm

It's a shame they didn't use any actual footage of Corky flying "In" that hangar. I just looked at the clip on You Tube and he approaches and enters from outside, then all the inside stuff is slower and with Moore in the cockpit. Corky then is next seen zipping out of the closing doors. Would've loved to see that jet go through the hangar in one shot!
It's got to exist somewhere.
Jerry

RyanShort1 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:19 pm

I'm pretty sure I've seen or read about it being done a couple of times in the 30's.

Ryan

A2C · **Posted:** Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:09 am

I think it would be cool if a hanger like at tillamook had a runway right through the middle! It would be a challenge for landings as well.

bluehawk15 · **Posted:** Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:09 pm

As I recall reading somewhere, a long time ago, Corky flew through more than one time. He had the numbers guys do the math, and they gave him a speed not to exceed. He said on the last trip through, he pushed a couple of knots past that, just to see, and got a good bounce.

The doors were wide open when he flew through. Then a shot was taken of them closing the doors. The two were "matted" (?) over each other so it looked like the doors were closing as he flew through them.

Baldeagle · **Posted:** Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:31 pm

http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-f ... c=y&page=3

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flyboyj · **Joined:** Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:01 pm **Posts:** 157

Anyone remember Tustin MCAS?

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Look at about 7:11 in this clip to see Mantz "flying" through the hangar in Chino. Actually it looks like he had the tail up on a takeoff roll and then took off since the hangars aren't really high enough for something the size of a Stearman to fly through with more than about 12 or 18 inches under the wheels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUAC3xSMD20

Chris Brame · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:34 pm

Didn't Robert L. Scott (author of God is My Co-Pilot) state once that he actually performed the hangar stunt because of some insurance issue between the studio and Mantz?

sledge39 · **Joined:** Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:01 pm **Posts:** 262

...One of the AeroSport guys who worked at Cal-Aero in 1941 (Rick Sepe), told me in about 1977, that it was R. L. Scott in Mantz's Boeing 100...

...taxied with the tail up through all four hangars...took off leaving the last one...

TOSG · **Joined:** Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:17 pm **Posts:** 7

A fellow named Roman Warren flew a Thomas-Morse Scout under the Mission Ave. bridge that crosses the Santa Ana river near Riverside, CA in 1926. Warren, who was known as the "Cowboy Aviator", operated the original Riverside Airport (near the site of the current FlaBob Airport) and was trying to drum up some publicity. The stunt was filmed and shown as a movie "short" at the time. A photograph of the stunt is printed in the Arcadia Publishing "Images of America" series for Rubidoux, CA.

As a side note, the Warren Riverside Airport was washed away by flooding of the Santa Ana river in 1938. The current Riverside Airport is located several miles southeast, on the other side of Mt. Rubidoux. Flabob Airport is very close to the site of the original Riverside Airport.

Roman Warren lived into his late 90's, retired in Lone Pine, CA.

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