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Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:00 pm
Great news! Any info on which one it is? serial number?
Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:04 pm
I've got some pics of John Hess in it at Kerrville back in the 80s-90s?
Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:41 pm
When y'all sold it the 1st time, Jim Fausz told me, "Mustangs are like a** holes, everyone's got one." Guess everyone's entitled to an opinion. Glad it's back. Wish they hadn't taken those instrument panels out though.
Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:06 pm
Pat Carry wrote:Great news! Any info on which one it is? serial number?
44-73458/N4151D.
It is an airplane with a very strange history. It is an ex-RCAF Mustang. It was possibly one of the airframes illegally purchased by FAS during the Soccer War, coming from the US civil register (N554T). It was originally built up as a TF-51 in El Salvador just after the 1969 war, and reportedly used parts from a crashed Cavalier TF-51 (FAS 400) and probably parts from a crashed Cavalier Mustang II (FAS 402).
At some point it crashed in El Salvador, was damaged to an unknown extent, and was brought back to the US with the crop of ex-FAS Mustangs bought by Flaherty in the early 70s.
Gordon Plaskett rebuilt it for flight in 1977, and it has gone through numerous owners. At one point it had a 1-piece windscreen and a groovy red leather interior.
No way of telling if the registered serial is the original serial, as is the case with many Mustangs that came from El Salvador.
Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:26 pm
I have some video of it from a Kerrville show back in 86'. I believe it had the red
interior then.
Stephen
Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:30 pm
Is it me or does this P-51 look odd and out of place? The wheels look small, the wings look different too and the nose also doesn't seem right.
Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:32 pm
Nathan wrote:Is it me or does this P-51 look odd and out of place? The wheels look small, the wings look different too and the nose also doesn't seem right.

It's you...
Actually, the deal is that it's a TF-51, so it's got a different canopy.
I think it has something to do with the camera used. Some of the angles aren't quite as distorted.
Ryan
Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:32 pm
I have a question, how many "ACTUAL" TF/TP-51s were really produced?
Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:38 pm
Congrats to the LSFM!
Beautiful airplane...
I saw it for the first time in 1986...
Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:31 am
Pogmusic wrote:I have a question, how many "ACTUAL" TF/TP-51s were really produced?
(10) Ten TP-51Ds built by North American.
(15) Fifteen TEMCO-modified TF-51s.
Beyond that, there were (7) Seven Cavalier TF-51s built (at least two of them started life as TEMCO TFs).
Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:14 am
Very cool. I like the scheme on it too.
Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:05 am
Chris, don't get too attached to that scheme. It's going to be repainted.
After carrying this paint scheme for more than 25 years the TF is going to be repainted as Galveston Gal. Ray Lancaster, flew P-38s, P-47s and P-51s in Europe. All of his aircraft were named Galveston Gal, including the Vari Eze he built back in the 80s. It was Galveston Gal VI, If I remember correctly.
Some research has been done on Ray's logbook and it appears that there were several occasions where Ray escorted the original Thunderbird.
Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:20 am
Pogmusic wrote:I have a question, how many "ACTUAL" TF/TP-51s were really produced?
Not nearly as many as are floating around now...
Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:42 am
Hal B,
That's the point I was trying to make about "How many TP/TFs were actually produced?"
So when they say the cockpits have been restored to stock, what do they mean? Was the aft one was removed?
Just picking at the nits. Still love the aircraft.
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