Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:29 pm
Prefer cigars myself.
I also get real tired of non-smokers trying to tell other people who are old enough to make their own decisions what to do.
oh, and PM is a great stock to own.
I also get real tired of non-smokers trying to tell other people who are old enough to make their own decisions what to do.
oh, and PM is a great stock to own.
Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:39 pm
I quit at age 48 ... WOW !!! 29 years ago .... Carry around my trustworthy inhaler ... probably most casued by a steady supplies of Camels while trudging thru the rice paddies ... they were sooooooo gooood we even bought them thru the black market ...
Pleasant Memories.
Pleasant Memories.
Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:34 pm
I follow Douglas Bader's example, and smoke a pipe. However, I am only a casual smoker- If I feel like a smoke, occasionally I will. I do not do so daily or even weekly, just occasionally... A nice outdoor swapmeet for antique autos, fall evenings at a friend's farm, soon on my own front porch 
. I can smoke if I want, or not if I don't want. I feel no unfightable urge to do so.
The same with alcohol- I can drink to excess, or not, or not at all- I don't have the bug to need to: if I want a drink I have one, if not, I don't/ Usually I go months between drinks, or smokes. But I can handle what I do when I do, so I'm good. Feel sorry for those who can't enjoy these things the way I can- (casually). I've seen what an alcohol dependence did to a friend of mine. Happily, he finally hit bottom, and scraped himself off the floor, and is now doing well in a VA program, and at school(one of our adult students)
Robbie
. I can smoke if I want, or not if I don't want. I feel no unfightable urge to do so.
The same with alcohol- I can drink to excess, or not, or not at all- I don't have the bug to need to: if I want a drink I have one, if not, I don't/ Usually I go months between drinks, or smokes. But I can handle what I do when I do, so I'm good. Feel sorry for those who can't enjoy these things the way I can- (casually). I've seen what an alcohol dependence did to a friend of mine. Happily, he finally hit bottom, and scraped himself off the floor, and is now doing well in a VA program, and at school(one of our adult students)
Robbie
Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:54 pm
my sentiments exactly Robbie.
If we should be able to sue the pants off of any corporation that makes a product that can be used to excess then I'm going after Pepsico for making Mountain Dew. Terrible, Evil Stuff that is bad for me but I can't seem to stop...
If we should be able to sue the pants off of any corporation that makes a product that can be used to excess then I'm going after Pepsico for making Mountain Dew. Terrible, Evil Stuff that is bad for me but I can't seem to stop...
Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:53 pm
I had a girlfriend one time ask me if I smoked after sex, I told her "heck I never looked". Naw! I smoked in the Army but quit 10 year ago. Ever now and then I'll bum one, but I aint buying em and I sure don't need em. I'll drink a beer ever now and then (nothing stronger). Found out long ago, if I was to drink the hard stuff I get like an Indian and wana take scalps! So I stay away from it.
Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:15 am
Quit that nasty habit over 15 years ago, and with a carton going for close to $60.00 here in Washington, who can really afford it anymore?
Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:11 pm
I've never smoked anything to date, and intend to keep it that way.
Playing in bands, I've been around it for years. It didn't upset me, it was just a fact of life... but it sure was a blessing when they passed the smoking ban in IL.
Playing in bands, I've been around it for years. It didn't upset me, it was just a fact of life... but it sure was a blessing when they passed the smoking ban in IL.
Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:22 am
This is a story told to me by a lawyer... we can trust them.
He said there was this guy who had some very expensive cigars. Over a period of time he lit them up and smoked them. Deciding he wanted to recoup his money; he filed an insurance claim. Homeowners Insurance, I guess. His claim was that they had been destroyed in a fire. Very clever.
Or so he thought. The insurance company filed charges against him for arson.
He said there was this guy who had some very expensive cigars. Over a period of time he lit them up and smoked them. Deciding he wanted to recoup his money; he filed an insurance claim. Homeowners Insurance, I guess. His claim was that they had been destroyed in a fire. Very clever.
Or so he thought. The insurance company filed charges against him for arson.
Re: who smokes?
Thu May 13, 2010 6:48 pm
I smoked for 18 years when I quit 13 years ago at the age of 38. I gained a lot weight and remained smoke free for 11 years. I started again, when my Dad's health began to deteriorate.....which is ironic when you consider smoking is considered to be one of the leading causes of pancreatic cancer....how dumb can one person be? The doctor put me on Welbutrin in June, 2008, and I lost a lot of weight. After Daddy died, in August, 2008, I realized I was smoking less, and less. I finally quit for good, January 3, 2009. I went to my Aunt's about six months ago, and she asked me if I wanted one...I figured what the heck, it wouldn't hurt....it actually made me feel sick...I was thrilled. For me, Welbutrin has been a miracle drug. The first time I quit was probably the most difficult thing I have ever done, but it was sooooooo worth it. If you want to quit, keep trying...you will get there....if I did it, anyone can!
Re: who smokes?
Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:26 am
No for at present and Never for the future. I hate smoking. It smells awful and it's very harmful to our health.
Re: who smokes?
Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:58 pm
Enemy Ace, as for a non smokers tellling you what to do; that comes from years of having to put up with the stinking and carcogenic exhaust from smokers in many public places. I guess you have a right to smoke it if you are the only one affected; if you put a hood over your head so none of the good stuff could escape to affect anyone else, like kids in a home.
Re: who smokes?
Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:49 pm
Bill Greenwood wrote:Enemy Ace, as for a non smokers tellling you what to do; that comes from years of having to put up with the stinking and carcogenic exhaust from smokers in many public places. I guess you have a right to smoke it if you are the only one affected; if you put a hood over your head so none of the good stuff could escape to affect anyone else, like kids in a home.
As if a Merlin doesn't produce "stinking and carcinogenic exhaust"!
Just kidding Bill! Of course that type of "stink" is good! 
Re: who smokes?
Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:36 pm
Or in a car, in the Winter, in Chicago...Bill Greenwood wrote:...like kids in a home.
Re: who smokes?
Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:14 am
Of course a Merlin produces exhaust, lot's of it. But I don't run it inside a restaurant or hotel or standing by the entrance to one , and I don't force kids in my car to breath it.
In cruise, you can't see any black or white or visible smoke from the Merlin exhaust, but there probably are some pollutants in it. I've never seen any such report. It is far less amount than the millions of pounds of jet exhaust every day. When big corporate jets take off out of Aspen, you can see large trails of dark exhaust behind them for miles. They also sit and run their engines on the ground, I have seen some of them do it for hours. It is both actaul as welll as visual and noise pollution. I've never had anyone complain about a Merlin running at idle, as for as the noise.
There are many bad habits that people have, like wasting time on WIX, or eating chocalate chips cookies. But there are a few habits, like smooking in public or DUI on public streets, where the harmful affects impact other people rather than just the one using them.
In cruise, you can't see any black or white or visible smoke from the Merlin exhaust, but there probably are some pollutants in it. I've never seen any such report. It is far less amount than the millions of pounds of jet exhaust every day. When big corporate jets take off out of Aspen, you can see large trails of dark exhaust behind them for miles. They also sit and run their engines on the ground, I have seen some of them do it for hours. It is both actaul as welll as visual and noise pollution. I've never had anyone complain about a Merlin running at idle, as for as the noise.
There are many bad habits that people have, like wasting time on WIX, or eating chocalate chips cookies. But there are a few habits, like smooking in public or DUI on public streets, where the harmful affects impact other people rather than just the one using them.
Re: who smokes?
Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:19 am
The inhaled smoke contains many harmful substances, such as tar, carbon monoxide, hydrogen cyanide, heavy metals and free radicals. Each of these damages the body in various ways. Tar is sticky and brown, containing many chemicals known to be carcinogenic, including benzopyrene. It also and stains teeth, fingernails and lung tissue.
It causes damage to the mouth, teeth and gums, as well as ulcers of the digestive system.
Osteoporosis is caused by a leeching of calcium from the bones and predisposes smokers to fractures. The hip joint is particularly vulnerable to fractures and Avascular Necrosis, a disorder where the bone dies.
Because carbon monoxide, a major component of the smoke, binds with higher affinity to hemoglobin, it displaces oxygen carried by the blood. Since less oxygen is carried within each blood cell, the heart must pump more blood through the body to transfer the same amount of oxygen to the cells.
Hydrogen cyanide prevents the lungs from cleaning themselves of poisonous chemicals. Cilia, the tiny hairs that help to clean the lungs by moving foreign substances out are damaged. Harmful chemicals are allowed to collect in the lungs, preventing oxygenation of the blood.
Other chemicals in smoke that damage the lungs include hydrocarbons, nitrous oxides, organic acids, phenols and oxidizing agents. Free radicals are highly reactive chemicals that can damage the heart muscles and blood vessels When they react with cholesterol plaques are formed, which increase the risk of arterial damage, heart disease and stroke. Finally, tobacco smoke contains dangerous metals including arsenic, cadmium, and lead. Many of these are known to cause cancer.
The tars in smoke can trigger cancer of the esophagus and throat. Smoking causes increased stomach acid secretion, leading to heartburn and ulcers. Smokers have higher rates of deadly pancreatic cancer. Many of the carcinogens from cigarettes are excreted in the urine where their presence can cause bladder cancer, which is often fatal. High blood pressure from smoking can damage the kidneys.
It causes damage to the mouth, teeth and gums, as well as ulcers of the digestive system.
Osteoporosis is caused by a leeching of calcium from the bones and predisposes smokers to fractures. The hip joint is particularly vulnerable to fractures and Avascular Necrosis, a disorder where the bone dies.
Because carbon monoxide, a major component of the smoke, binds with higher affinity to hemoglobin, it displaces oxygen carried by the blood. Since less oxygen is carried within each blood cell, the heart must pump more blood through the body to transfer the same amount of oxygen to the cells.
Hydrogen cyanide prevents the lungs from cleaning themselves of poisonous chemicals. Cilia, the tiny hairs that help to clean the lungs by moving foreign substances out are damaged. Harmful chemicals are allowed to collect in the lungs, preventing oxygenation of the blood.
Other chemicals in smoke that damage the lungs include hydrocarbons, nitrous oxides, organic acids, phenols and oxidizing agents. Free radicals are highly reactive chemicals that can damage the heart muscles and blood vessels When they react with cholesterol plaques are formed, which increase the risk of arterial damage, heart disease and stroke. Finally, tobacco smoke contains dangerous metals including arsenic, cadmium, and lead. Many of these are known to cause cancer.
The tars in smoke can trigger cancer of the esophagus and throat. Smoking causes increased stomach acid secretion, leading to heartburn and ulcers. Smokers have higher rates of deadly pancreatic cancer. Many of the carcinogens from cigarettes are excreted in the urine where their presence can cause bladder cancer, which is often fatal. High blood pressure from smoking can damage the kidneys.