Canadian P-40
Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:51 pm
Ran across this today... first recent picture I have seen of this one. This P-40 has been owned by the same guy for a long time, right?
http://www.parallelaviation.com/images/gallery/cool/Open%20House%20Apr%2005%20021.jpg
http://www.parallelaviation.com/images/gallery/cool/Open%20House%20Apr%2005%20021.jpg
P-40E
Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:10 pm
George Maude has had her for oh say 50+ years in airworthy but not flown condition but does preiodic engine runs.
OK...........cool
Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:20 pm
Whom, when where ?
Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:21 pm
Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:36 pm
I wonder if he would sell it to me if I offered him 100 times what he paid for it? 
That's cool!!!!!!!
I wonder how many more are out there like that still?
That's cool!!!!!!!
I wonder how many more are out there like that still?
Wow.........
Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:47 pm
Wow.....
And U think yu know all there is to know up in your sticks.......
OK, a quicky.
How many Cnd's knew about this bird ?
Just curious.
Tks again for the info
And U think yu know all there is to know up in your sticks.......
OK, a quicky.
How many Cnd's knew about this bird ?
Just curious.
Tks again for the info
Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:17 pm
Hi Michel,
This P-40 is well known to most of us out here on the west coast. A very nice and original RCAF P-40!
George Maude also provided a Bolingbroke to the Canada Aviation Museum.
Brian....
This P-40 is well known to most of us out here on the west coast. A very nice and original RCAF P-40!
George Maude also provided a Bolingbroke to the Canada Aviation Museum.
Brian....
Wow......
Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:51 pm
Wow......
Followed the pic link.........
I am amazed / well speachless......
One can always be amazed as to what can be found around
In Canada that is 
Followed the pic link.........
I am amazed / well speachless......
One can always be amazed as to what can be found around
In Canada that is
Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:51 pm
unique, not often seen color scheme & markings on a p-40. a refreshing photo. are they accurate?? or done to the owners' taste or whim?? thanks tom
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:18 pm
Hi all--
That livery is a late-war scheme from 163 Sqn (iirc--correct me if I'm wrong Dave), usually seen on their Kittyhawk IIIs but also on this Mk.I. Again iirc, 1034 did a victory bond tour in this scheme, beautifully turned out for public display, so the scheme is entirely authentic. George Maude had this Kitty and two Bolingbrokes (9104, 9892) in the immediate postwar years; the family retained the Kittyhawk and both Bolies also survive, 9104 in the BC Aviation Museum and 9892, as has been mentioned, in the CAvM collection at Rockcliffe. If only there had been a few dozen more George Maudes in Canada circa 1946...
S.
That livery is a late-war scheme from 163 Sqn (iirc--correct me if I'm wrong Dave), usually seen on their Kittyhawk IIIs but also on this Mk.I. Again iirc, 1034 did a victory bond tour in this scheme, beautifully turned out for public display, so the scheme is entirely authentic. George Maude had this Kitty and two Bolingbrokes (9104, 9892) in the immediate postwar years; the family retained the Kittyhawk and both Bolies also survive, 9104 in the BC Aviation Museum and 9892, as has been mentioned, in the CAvM collection at Rockcliffe. If only there had been a few dozen more George Maudes in Canada circa 1946...
S.
Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:16 pm
Here's the whole story- it's a little confusing but I thought you all would be interested:
George bought his P-40 after the war. He brought it up to Salt Spring Island on a log raft (we have a picture - pretty cool looking) he then cut the wings off to transport it up the road (to get between telephone poles) to his mothers house. Yes, cut them off. He then purchased a complete set of wings from a P-40E that was being disposed of out of a school in Cutbank Montana (50's ???- year unknown). After this he learned of another P-40E in Alberta that was being dis-assembled by a farmer and he bought that set of wings which were in much better condition than the set out of Cutbank. George now had two sets of wings. Neil Rose from Vancouver, WA. ended up with the fuselage and remains of the P-40E from the farmer in Alberta and bought George Maude's now spare set of wings that came from Cutbank. Neil sold this entire pile to George Perez of Half Moon Bay California who in turn sold it to my Dad (John Paul) in June of 1966. My Dad restored that airplane first flew it in 1970 as N4466 with my Mom's name as the call letters "SUE". He still has that airplane and just to keep everyone clear, George's airplane has the original wings from my Dad's P-40E. My Dad and Art Zotterelli later went up to George's place in Vancouver and removed the cut-off wings from his fuselage, took out the landing gears and put them in the set of wings from Alberta, mounted the fuselage, put it up on it's gear, removed the Prop, changed the nose case on the engine (font bearing was worn out) and put the prop back on. ALL IN 3 DAYS!!! My Dad came home with the cut-off center section and cut-off outer wings - and Geroge's P-40 was back together.
How 'bout that!
Our back yard was full of P-40's when I was growing up. But that's another story. So is where the cut-off wings went -I'm out of time and have to go out to the airport now - replacing hoses our P-40N.
JC
George bought his P-40 after the war. He brought it up to Salt Spring Island on a log raft (we have a picture - pretty cool looking) he then cut the wings off to transport it up the road (to get between telephone poles) to his mothers house. Yes, cut them off. He then purchased a complete set of wings from a P-40E that was being disposed of out of a school in Cutbank Montana (50's ???- year unknown). After this he learned of another P-40E in Alberta that was being dis-assembled by a farmer and he bought that set of wings which were in much better condition than the set out of Cutbank. George now had two sets of wings. Neil Rose from Vancouver, WA. ended up with the fuselage and remains of the P-40E from the farmer in Alberta and bought George Maude's now spare set of wings that came from Cutbank. Neil sold this entire pile to George Perez of Half Moon Bay California who in turn sold it to my Dad (John Paul) in June of 1966. My Dad restored that airplane first flew it in 1970 as N4466 with my Mom's name as the call letters "SUE". He still has that airplane and just to keep everyone clear, George's airplane has the original wings from my Dad's P-40E. My Dad and Art Zotterelli later went up to George's place in Vancouver and removed the cut-off wings from his fuselage, took out the landing gears and put them in the set of wings from Alberta, mounted the fuselage, put it up on it's gear, removed the Prop, changed the nose case on the engine (font bearing was worn out) and put the prop back on. ALL IN 3 DAYS!!! My Dad came home with the cut-off center section and cut-off outer wings - and Geroge's P-40 was back together.
How 'bout that!
Our back yard was full of P-40's when I was growing up. But that's another story. So is where the cut-off wings went -I'm out of time and have to go out to the airport now - replacing hoses our P-40N.
JC
Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:48 pm
Sorry, typo. I meant N94466.
P-40
Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:56 pm
Thanks for the response, JC! This is the response I had hope to get when I posted the picture link!
You have any pictures of your back yard full of P40 parts?
Thanks again for posting.
You have any pictures of your back yard full of P40 parts?
Thanks again for posting.
Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:22 pm
Hi Dan,
Your welcome - I gotta say, it's probably more accurate to say our back yard (ordinary California neighborhood) had P-40's, not P-40 parts! Tom Camp and my Dad built several P-40's out of our garage. I think they put 5-6 of them together between them. This was long before there were restoration shops like we have today and my Dad had pretty much cleaned out Canada of any P-40 stuff that was laying around. It's funny, I used to practice my pitching in littile league by throwing dirt clods at the fuselage of the very P-40N that I now get to fly. Hey, it was just a P-40 fuselage to a kid! There were plenty! Looking back, I'm sure my Dad would have killed me had he known, so do me a favor and don't tell anyone.
We have lots of photos, I'll see about posting some.
JC
Your welcome - I gotta say, it's probably more accurate to say our back yard (ordinary California neighborhood) had P-40's, not P-40 parts! Tom Camp and my Dad built several P-40's out of our garage. I think they put 5-6 of them together between them. This was long before there were restoration shops like we have today and my Dad had pretty much cleaned out Canada of any P-40 stuff that was laying around. It's funny, I used to practice my pitching in littile league by throwing dirt clods at the fuselage of the very P-40N that I now get to fly. Hey, it was just a P-40 fuselage to a kid! There were plenty! Looking back, I'm sure my Dad would have killed me had he known, so do me a favor and don't tell anyone.
We have lots of photos, I'll see about posting some.
JC
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Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:36 pm
This photo was taken just after I returned from Desert Storm (June 91). My new wife and I drove up to the Yakima Air Fair.
We ran into Neil Rose who introduced us to John & Sue Paul. 5 minutes later.............................Very nice people indeed!!!
We ran into Neil Rose who introduced us to John & Sue Paul. 5 minutes later.............................Very nice people indeed!!!