Jack's Color Buffalo Photos

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:21 pm

Found these 2 in my archives thought you'd all enjoy them with all the Buffalo noise going on.
Scott, contact me by regular email to dicuss your proposal.

LT "Oc" Chenoweth explains the finer points of the F2A's cockpit to his students at NAS Opa Locke, FL in early 1942.
Chenoweth later scored 8.5 kills with VF-38/VF-17.

An AO (BTW the finest rate in the Navy) loads the .50s of a F2A at NAS Opa Locke, FL 1942.

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:06 pm

I thought AO stood for A$$ed Out, Or that was what we were told in Tweek A school. :wink:

BTW: Great shots,I wish my color photos aged so well.

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:21 pm

Has the saying goes "those who can do"-"those you can't.....we'll we need AKs, ATs & AEs also". I mean come on boys. What could be more fun than loading 8 A-6Es in the summer at El Centro with wall to wall MK-83s by herna bar with CPO Sharkey shouting "what a bunch of Nancies, my mother could load faster than that!" while the green/brown shirts coke down in the shade?

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:25 pm

At least the A-6 AOs did their own Release and Control checks.

I've had the miss pleasure of helping load weapons, too much work for my rate! :lol:

CWBuff · **Joined:** Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:14 am **Posts:** 854

I'll add a couple if I may... these are from the flick 'Dive Bomber'...

Screen caps by Ronnie Olsthoorn

Jack, you say that the pilot in the first shot is Oscar Chenoweth, while the USNHC site captions the pilot in the photo as being Lt. Walter A. Haas. I've seen the photos of 'Oc' on your Oregon Aces pages on MSN and am inclined to agree with you over the USN; after all, I assume you may have had contact Mr. Chenoweth. But I'd like to have it straight for my own records...

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Jack Cook · **Posted:** Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:12 pm

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the USNHC site captions the pilot in the photo as being Lt. Walter A. Haas.

I showed the picture to Tom Blackburn a few years back along with Wally Schub of VF-17 and they IDed it has OC. Blackburn was there at Opa Locke at the same time. It's a shame he's not in the photo. Hass was assigned to VF-42 on both the Ranger and the Yorktown from Oct 1940 until Aug 1942 at sea flying F4Fs so couldn't be in the picture.

CWBuff · **Joined:** Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:14 am **Posts:** 854

Groovy, thanks for the info.

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Jack Cook · **Posted:** Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:03 pm

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I thought AO stood for A$$ed Out,

AO actually stands for "Always Outstanding"!

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:17 pm

That Carrier shot is great, what I would not do to be able to grab a few types of each off that deck and bring then into the year 2005.

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:57 pm

a revelation...... why would the ww 2 u.s. navy name a carrier based warbird after a nearly extinct, prairie grazing cow that were decimated on the ground as an animal in the 19th century, & in the air as a fighter in ww 2?? pretty dumb logic!!! but pretty ironic, let alone moronic. f2a manatee sounds better & fits better. it's totally dumb what the pissing contest is causing, but any buffalo chip is worth filling the naval aviation historic chain. best, tom

CWBuff · **Joined:** Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:14 am **Posts:** 854

tom d. friedman wrote:

why would the ww 2 u.s. navy name a carrier based warbird after a nearly extinct, prairie grazing cow that were decimated on the ground as an animal in the 19th century, & in the air as a fighter in ww 2?

They didn't. The British christened the Brewster Model 339 as 'Buffalo' and the name stuck...

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