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P-38E 41-2276

Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:49 pm

any update info on the dispostion of this aircraft?

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/p-38/41-2276.html

regards,

t~

P38 Wreck

Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:27 am

Do the right thing and organise to have it recovered before it vanishes.

P-38E 41-2276

Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:12 am

jungle bob,

are you stating the wreck is still present at its crash site? It appears to be in federally controlled land and the u.s. park service is involved and we've seen how they handle wrecks on their lands (i.e. california b-17c)

Rob Rohr seems to have extensive knowledge for north american wrecks. Any info Mr. Rohr?

regards,

t~

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Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:30 am

Why not contact Rob Grienart he would know exactly what to do, Jungle Bob would know how to contact him!


LOL!!!!!!

Cheers

Digger

location

Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:04 am

so as far as anyone knows, the wreck is still at the crash site and has not been recovered??

regards,

t~

Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:19 am

Looks like this crash site is finally being investigated by JAPAC as well as an SDB site with remains as well.

http://www.jpac.pacom.mil/PR2005-26.htm

regards,

t~

Re: P38 Wreck

Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:55 am

Jungle Bob wrote:Do the right thing and organise to have it recovered before it vanishes.
I agree, it is despoiling the forest where it is.

Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:18 am

Is the Washington P-38E the oldest in existence/remains? From my record it appears to be. Should be recovered.

Are there any comparable or earlier models? in PNG?

From WIX and my records...PNG-National and Vilu have 4 Lightnings in country. (3 F-5's & 1 G) One of those Four is being restored out in California with Jandina III 42-103988.

PNG has:
National Museum
F-5-LO 42-12647 "Dottie from Booklyn" Rothgeb (39thFS)
F-5-LO 42-12652 "33" Sparks (39thFS) This could be the one being restored w/ Jandina III in California. It may also be returned to PNG in trade for Jandina III if rumors are true.
G-5-LO 42-12847 "37" Dunbar (39thFS)

Vilu
F-5A-10-LO 42-13084 Name? Pilot? (6thPRG)

Certainly there are others still to be discovered in the Jungles but are any others held in storage in PNG?

Other P-38E's

Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:34 am

Two other earlier models (#41-2027 & 41-2006) were found in a dump in Alaska in 1987, but were then transformed into Hill AFB Museum's static but excellent P-38J 42-67638. See the following for details:

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/photos/current/odgers/

Are there any spare components that were not used for the Hill project that could be used on the Washington P-38? Would Mr. Allen or the Air Force be interested in the oldest remaining P-38 in the world? Did this aircraft see combat in the Aleutians?

Re: P-38E 41-2276

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:21 pm

originalboxcar wrote:jungle bob,
It appears to be in federally controlled land and the u.s. park service is involved and we've seen how they handle wrecks on their lands (i.e. california b-17c)
t~


What California B-17C? It's not in the registry.

Re: P-38E 41-2276

Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:00 pm

CorsairFreak wrote:
originalboxcar wrote:jungle bob,
It appears to be in federally controlled land and the u.s. park service is involved and we've seen how they handle wrecks on their lands (i.e. california b-17c)
t~


What California B-17C? It's not in the registry.


I'm curious also which B-17 is that?

P38 Rumours

Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:25 pm

Hey Glenn. you wrote

PNG has:
National Museum
F-5-LO 42-12647 "Dottie from Booklyn" Rothgeb (39thFS)
F-5-LO 42-12652 "33" Sparks (39thFS) This could be the one being restored w/ Jandina III in California. It may also be returned to PNG in trade for Jandina III if rumors are true.
G-5-LO 42-12847 "37" Dunbar (39thFS)


Question - What rumours?

Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:03 pm

Don't mean to hijack the original thread...

The B-17C would be 40-2047. Went down northeast of Placerville, CA, in November, 1941. Apparently it has been vandalized repeatedly over the years, although under the declared protection of the US Forestry Service.

Others know much more about this story than I--time to let them take over.

Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:00 pm

must be a pretty remote location to be found this recently on u.s. soil. just read yesterday explorers found a previously unmapped area w/ a newly discovered water fall out west. maybe the planet isn't shrinking as much as we think!!

Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:54 am

CorsairFreak wrote:
originalboxcar wrote:
jungle bob,
It appears to be in federally controlled land and the u.s. park service is involved and we've seen how they handle wrecks on their lands (i.e. california b-17c)
t~


What California B-17C? It's not in the registry.


I'm curious also which B-17 is that?



That would be this one:

http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/B17Chome.htm

regards,

t~
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