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Jack Frost · **Posted:** Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:06 pm

IMHO Air Classics has been misnamed for years. Should have called it "Classic Airrors".

airnutz · **Posted:** Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:32 pm

Ahh yes...The classic Stear-N...You can cut the irony with a knife... :lol:

Mudge · **Posted:** Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:21 pm

jbell wrote:

Correct English language is deteriorating fast. I see all sorts of mistakes in the media and periodicals. "Air Classics" not exempt. The health product commercials on the radio sound like the were produced by third graders.
" Yo Variclose veins will disappear from "view". ........Isn't that what "disappear" means, "from view" Ha........John

Don't get me started on grammar and punctuation. :rolleyes:

Mudge the dialectician and grammarian :shock:

GARY HILTON · **Posted:** Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:43 am

Mudge, don't be talk'n bad about grammar or granpa.

Jerry O'Neill · **Posted:** Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:06 pm

Mudge wrote:

Mudge the dialectician and grammarian :shock:

Mudge, were you, by any chance, born...Hungarian!? :lol:

Sorry, I just couldn't resist the temptation Col. Pickering!
Jerry

Mudge · **Posted:** Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:20 pm

Jerry O'Neill wrote:

Mudge wrote:

Mudge the dialectician and grammarian :shock:

Mudge, were you, by any chance, born...Hungarian!? :lol:

Sorry, I just couldn't resist the temptation Col. Pickering!
Jerry

Very funny, Jerry. Quite unlike you. :hide:

Mudge the observant

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

I gave up on periodicals many years ago. Too much on the internet that is up to the minute rather than months old news.

I do make an exception for Classic Wings however. This is the finest magazine out there on warbirds, even though not devoted exclusively to the type.

marine air · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:00 am

Maybe Stearman's should be called Steer'N em or Stare a' N's since some unlucky souls got stuck training in N2S Stearmans when we all know they were dreaming of flying the majestic Navy N3N's !

K5DH · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:59 am

jbell wrote:

Correct English language is deteriorating fast. I see all sorts of mistakes in the media and periodicals. "Air Classics" not exempt. The health product commercials on the radio sound like the were produced by third graders.
" Yo Variclose veins will disappear from "view". ........Isn't that what "disappear" means, "from view" Ha........John

You're right about that. I don't know where the magazines and newspapers are finding their proofreaders, if they even use them at all. I suspect it's all being done using computers, and the spelling and grammar checkers very often don't catch blatant errors. Drives me nuts.

Here's another thing that drives me nuts. What about all of the TV, radio, and print ads that speak about "free gifts"? Isn't that the very definition of a "gift"? Something that's given for free? I've never heard of a "gift" that you have to pay for! (duh?)

Mudge · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:57 pm

One of my many pet peeve grammatical screw ups is: I'm going to "try and" do this." You can "try to" and you can have "tried and" but "try and" connotes an attempt "TRY" and success "AND". You get one at a time, not both.
Another is: "For free". No...No...No. You can get something "free" or you can get something "for nothing"." FOR" connotes a value. "NOTHING" has no value.

Mudge the Hungarian :wink:

I didn't start this... :hide:

Dan Jones · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:15 pm

My favorite is "I could care less."

Just think about it for a minute.

Dan the Stearman geek.

Mudge · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:29 pm

Dan Jones wrote:

My favorite is "I could care less."

Just think about it for a minute.

Dan the Stearman geek.

Yep...One of my top 3

Mudge the Hungarian of Royal blood* :shock:

*It's an inside joke.

Pat Carry · **Posted:** Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:05 pm

N3Njeff wrote:

Well I have calmed down now and feeling better so here is my story. Since a fellow WIX'er broke the news that a article on the N3N was in the current AirClassics, every day for the last 2 weeks I have been visiting or calling my local barnes & noble for the new issue. Well today they finally got it. They pulled a issue behind the counter for me and I haul'd my butt over there. Once there, I waited in line for 15 min as we are in full X-mas shopping mode. FINALLY my turn and I told them my name and they were holding a magazine for me, she retuned and put it on the counter and I screamed like a school girl when I had seen the N3N on THE COVER!!!!!!! I was oblivious to the 7.99 ISSUE price as I was too excited to see more!!! I got it out to the truck and started thumbing through it like a 10 yr old with his first playboy........AHHH the BELOVED CENTERFOLD!!!! After 2 min of glory, I turned to the article and started to read.

As fast as my excitement climbed it came crashing down as I read the "history" of my favorite airplane.
"The navy wanted to create a rugged, easy to maintain plane and the fuselage was designed with a bolted steel tube construction with large removeable side panels that would make maintenance and inspection very easy. Also flying surfaces were all metal and the entire aircraft was fabric covered" BOLTED STEEL TUBE CONSTRUCTION????????? WTF?????? Where did this come from. Every N I have ever heard built was RIVETED with EXTRUDED ALUMINUM!!! The article later posts about the markings of the N3N, that all were delivered overall yellow (except for USCG examples)
Well here ON WIX, its already been stated that no N3N's ever were Silver. They were still YELLOW!!!!! The historians in the USCG will tell you that. Then at the end of the article, they talked about the R985 engine in a T-6???? WTF!!!! My sorrow went back to the $7.99 issue price on what I paid for this crap!!!!!
I find it great that a sweet N3N is back in the air because of the Sanders family. I watched for the updates as it came together but dam. Another article that did not live up to the justice of a little unknown airplane.
This is why I LOVE WIX and I dont need to subscribe to ANY magazines for my WARBIRD FIX!!!!! So after the 1st of the year and my bank account is headed back in a Positive direction, I WILL HIT THE WIX TIP JAR!!!!!! as far as I am concerned.......MONEY WELL SPENT!!!!! Thanks all who keep it going, interesting, CORRECT and FUN!!!

Jeff, In the Air Classics I just received the editor makes this statement: "In the last issue of Air Classics, in the article "Yellow Peril Meets the Texan" I incorrectly identified the construction of the N3N-3. The construction should have been specified as riveted aluminum extrusions. Actually, the structure is similar to that of a dirigible and the Naval Aircraft Factory had a lot of experience building such structures"

N3Njeff · **Posted:** Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:47 pm

Well on the 17th, I did write a response to the author of the article. Maybe I was the only one to say anything about the error. I hope not and I am glad that it got corrected. It kind of sucks that the article still mentioned that the N3N used SURPLUS Wright engines when the fact of it is that the NAF built the engines for the N3N line after they bought the tooling from Wright to manufacture the engine themselves. The N3N is the only airplane that I know of that the Airframe and the Engine were built by the same company. You would think that would have been worthy of mentioning in the article.

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