Doolittle Raid B-25's

Cking · **Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:57 pm

Perhaps I'd better start another thread about aviation "Holy grails"?

Rgds Cking

Pat Carry · **Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:21 pm

mustangdriver wrote:

They did find the Ruptured Duck. I have a piece of it in my home. I am not sure how much of it the found.

Chris, Do you have any info on how this B-25 was found? Was the piece you have brought up in a fishing net or was it an expidition out searching for it?

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:03 am

There was an excursion done in the 1990's that went to the crash sites of I think 4 of he B-25's and a few other aircraft. The Ruptured Duck pieces were still submerged along the beach I believe. Not 100% sure. I got my metal through Ellen Lawson. Ryan may know a good deal more about this.

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:08 am

There is still OD and zinc on the edges of it

Ken · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:41 pm

Looks like more are available here: http://pro5.com/moon/bmoonart.htm

I sure wish Bryan Moon would document his journey and share exactly what he found in photos ... apparently some of this is documented in "Destination Tokyo" by Carroll Glines ... however I don't have this particular title on my shelf.

Richard W. · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:34 pm

I want to learn more about the expedition, so I just ordered a copy of "Destination Tokyo" from a seller on eBay.

If anyone else is looking for a copy, it looks like the first edition of the book was published in 1983 and that would not include anything about the 1990 expedition. The one I ordered is a revised 1995 edition.

The Inspector · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:51 pm

Sidebar to ryanshort1's comment about holy grail airframes;
According to abcdlist.nl (a great site for commercial aircraft s/n's), #1 DC-3-178 s/n 1588 delivered to American Airlines on 11/36 as Flagship Missouri NC 16008. W/O Centerville, TN. 10/15/1943

whistlingdeath77 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:39 pm

30 seconds over toyko. great movie

RyanShort1 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:42 pm

I don't know that much more on the subject. I did manage to get ahold of Mr. Moon one time, but didn't really find out that much information.

Ryan

Pogmusic · **Posted:** Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:28 pm

Just had an interesting conversation with a member of the Doolittle Association. They recently had a brief at the USAF Museum by outgoing Gen Metcalf about bringing back the Valadavostok B-25. It has been located in a scrap yard and the AF is working on getting either a C-5 or AN-124 to bring it back to Dover AFB. It would then go down to Kissemee Fl for restoration. Evidently they're going to have to pay a large chunk of change to get it... If they agree to it. Maybe THAT's why the START treaty is stalled?????

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:40 pm

No photo of this historic 'find' I suppose.......releasing it wouldn't compromise the location more than the above statement and would perhaps generate public funds to go toward 'paying off' those who hold it... if it exisits that is :wink:

Ken · **Posted:** Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:50 pm

Great news, but very odd. Time for a Reaganesque, "Trust but verify".

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

Pogmusic wrote:

Just had an interesting conversation with a member of the Doolittle Association. They recently had a brief at the USAF Museum by outgoing Gen Metcalf about bringing back the Valadavostok B-25. It has been located in a scrap yard and the AF is working on getting either a C-5 or AN-124 to bring it back to Dover AFB. It would then go down to Kissemee Fl for restoration. Evidently they're going to have to pay a large chunk of change to get it... If they agree to it. Maybe THAT's why the START treaty is stalled?????

That sounds too good to be true. I'll believe it when I see the info released from an official source. I hope it's true, however!

michaelharadon · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:52 am

Pogmusic wrote:

Just had an interesting conversation with a member of the Doolittle Association. They recently had a brief at the USAF Museum by outgoing Gen Metcalf about bringing back the Valadavostok B-25. It has been located in a scrap yard and the AF is working on getting either a C-5 or AN-124 to bring it back to Dover AFB. It would then go down to Kissemee Fl for restoration. Evidently they're going to have to pay a large chunk of change to get it... If they agree to it. Maybe THAT's why the START treaty is stalled?????

And now, once again, it's time for the eternal question: WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE??????????????????????

Pogmusic · **Posted:** Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:39 am

According to my source, the A/C is in pieces at a scrap yard outside a Russian Air Base. The AF is negotiating with the Russians to get it out. The stumbling block is the USAF doesn't have the funding to do it. Maybe they ought to try the way the NM of NA does it with their wreck recoveries.

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