Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:50 pm
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Pogmusic wrote:Well, then I guess we have to rewrite historical context then don't we? I'm sorry if it offends your friends wife. I don't use the phrase except when used in historical context.
I have several family members, one uncle who died at Pearl Harbor, and friends who fought in the Japanese co-prosperity theater, who are greatly offended at having lost their youth and friends to the Japanese. What about the Filipino's who lived & died under their rule for years. What about the Koreans who serviced the Japanese? What about the Chinese for Gods sake? What about the Allied POWs forced to serve as slave labor, chemical and biological experiments and also starved to death -- nearly as bad as the German death camps. I'm sure that they're offended by the Japanese and what they did.
Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:33 pm
I have to say, it’s odd that there seems to be little ramifications over us characterizing the German people (most of whom weren’t even born before 1945) as “Krauts” or “Nazis” in the WW2 context, when we must tap dance around the Japanese issue. We can make fun of Nazi Germany in that way not just because of the inherent evil, but that they were Caucasians. The thing that made it oh so easy for 1940s America to hate the Japanese (the fact that looked so different from Caucasians) is making us now deny that aspect of history. Personally, I’m from the South, a region where slavery was legal and I had direct ancestors who fought for the Confederacy. None of them owned slaves and probably didn’t know anyone who did (they were all dirt poor), but I have no issues with people bringing this up in a historical context of the 1860s. In that context, all my relatives were “crackers,” “greybacks” or whatever derisive words they had at the time. But I think this is a self-imposed thing for Caucasians anyway. I dated a Japanese girl years ago and nobody in her family had issues with it. Her father knew I was a WW2 re-enactor as a hobby and said, “Hey, I know you don’t carry that hatred in your heart, but you’re representing those who did - and for good reason. In the context of WW2, that’s how people thought.”Pogmusic wrote:Well, then I guess we have to rewrite historical context then don't we? I'm sorry if it offends your friends wife. I don't use the phrase except when used in historical context.
I have several family members, one uncle who died at Pearl Harbor, and friends who fought in the Japanese co-prosperity theater, who are greatly offended at having lost their youth and friends to the Japanese. What about the Filipino's who lived & died under their rule for years. What about the Koreans who serviced the Japanese? What about the Chinese for Gods sake? What about the Allied POWs forced to serve as slave labor, chemical and biological experiments and also starved to death -- nearly as bad as the German death camps. I'm sure that they're offended by the Japanese and what they did.
Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:28 pm
Pogmusic wrote:As to the issue about party affiliation, that was applied to the officer corps of the Wehrmacht as late as 1938. Once again, tongue in cheek. Geeeeze.
The makeup of the Nazi party consisted mainly of the lower middle classes both rural and urban. 7% belonged to the upper class, 7% were peasants, 35% workers and 51% were what can be described as middle class. The largest single occupational group was elementary school teachers. For any Nazi members that had military ambitions, they entered the Waffen SS, since they were forbidden in the Wehrmacht. In order to join the Wehrmacht, National Socialist members had to surrender their party card
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
William L. Shirer (1960)
ISBN 0517102943
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ChrisDNT wrote:No problem with re-enactors, as long they are not in the frame, when I photograph an aircraft.
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ACarey wrote:Okay, so to keep it authentic a typical re-enactor needs to be between 21-26 years of age, weigh between 140-175 pounds, and stand between 5'8" and 6'0.
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