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Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:22 pm

EW439
Thanks for clarifying my statements, I agree with you.

When an aircraft conforms to the TCDS without a serial number it is a replica that may be registered as an amateur built/homebuilt or experimental exhibition depending on who assembles it. Both Paul Allen's and some of the Flug Werke 190s will be Experimental exhibition yet one is original and one is a replica. I think they are both great. My 90% vs 10% original factory built parts statement assumed there was a factory serial number attached.

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:42 am

Here are few pictures of the status of the fw, the prop will be shipped back from Germany on the 10th of Jan. The plane is complete and going in to paint, we should be flying by the end of Jan
Dan


http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae90 ... tside2.jpg
http://s960.photobucket.com/albums/ae90 ... ockpit.jpg

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:21 pm

I swung by the FHC website last night and their posting on the airplane says it will be in it's original Jg 54 GRUNHARTS scheme, they also appear to perhaps be working up to do something besides push their F6F HELLCAT around as they show it on jacks doing a gear swing!

www.flyingheritage.com

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:36 pm

As I understand it, it iwll be painted per the orgianl way that they found it, however it is harder then it looks. The paint was rough with paint on top of paint, something like 10 colors are going to be used. In researching the paint for the fw, they came from the factor all painted in a sky blue color, the camo was then added by the group when it arrived to the front lines. Both FCH and myself are going to try and duplicate that paint method as best as possiably.

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:14 pm

dano wrote:Here are few pictures of the status of the fw, the prop will be shipped back from Germany on the 10th of Jan. The plane is complete and going in to paint, we should be flying by the end of Jan
Dan


http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae90 ... tside2.jpg
http://s960.photobucket.com/albums/ae90 ... ockpit.jpg


Thanks for the pictures, Dano! Will you be doing the first test flights when it is finally airworthy?

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:05 pm

Update:

Some more pictures from FHC's facebook page regarding the new paint scheme the 190 is receiving:

http://www.facebook.com/flyingheritagecollection

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Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:31 pm

First photo of the FHC Fw 190 in its fully recreated original paint scheme is now up on their Facebook page! It should likely be up on the FHC website sometime soon.

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:46 pm

Here is the link to the FB pic
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... 3883518665

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:58 am

Wow, she looks great!

Here it is:

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Perhaps it's just the angle or sunlight, but does the paint look kind of glossy to anyone else?

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:09 pm

I totally agree. She looks absolutely stunning. At first I thought the green color would be too bright, especially when seeing the (vertical) parts, back of fuselage, fin and rudder. When looking more closely at the pic, I saw that the (horizontal) parts like wings, elevator and upper front part of cowling seem to be more fitting (or: what I expected) regarding the paint scheme (drawing) on FHC´s site. So it might be the glaring sunlight that leads to believe the green would be a shade to light (have a look at the sharp outlines and deep black of the shadow underneath.
I would love to see her for real in Seattle, in the hangar or preferably in the air. An absolute beauty. :D
Well done everybody involved!

Michael

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:13 pm

warbird1 wrote:Wow, she looks great!

Here it is:

Image

Perhaps it's just the angle or sunlight, but does the paint look kind of glossy to anyone else?


Love it! I can't wait to get a chance to see it.

Tim

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:13 pm

And, at least one modellers forum is having fits and hair pulling, clothes rending anguish because the 'color, application, tint, shading, is wrong. 'That looks like French chestnut brown' 'that looks like Italian green' 'is that RLM002 interior black on the tail?' All this from a handful of pictures of the completed paint job taken in the California sunshine or fuzzy WW2 photos taken in theatre. One even decries 'no evidence of panel shading or panel lines can be seen'. Lets see now, it's a freshly completely overhauled, freshly painted real airplane, not a model headed for a table @ the IPMS show. There wouldn't be any 'panel lines or shading' on a clean, fresh paint job.

Several claim the colors aren't 'right' and speculate the paint applied by the Luftwaffe (or not) nearly 70 years ago in Russia came from experimental German supplies, French factories, local Russian supplies, or a Pratt and Lambert store in Oshkosh, WI. or who knows. I agree that there are some very knowledgeable individuals on the discussion, including folks who are recognized as knowing their markings and German paints and this one will strongly divide factions for ever, as for me, I'm just going to show up @ KPAE and relish the sights and sounds. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Knowing the level of accuracy that is demanded by FHC (and we have a few forum members with intimate knowledge of that policy) coupled with Mr. Allens ability to get his hands on any sort of electronic analyzer equipment you'd care to dream up, I'll bet the paint, colors, application, and finish are as dead on the money as you can get and I seriously doubt, as one submitter speculated 'someone painted the airplane after it crashed'. :o

Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:43 pm

The Inspector wrote:And, at least one modellers forum is having fits and hair pulling, clothes rending anguish because the 'color, application, tint, shading, is wrong. 'That looks like French chestnut brown' 'that looks like Italian green' 'is that RLM002 interior black on the tail?' All this from a handful of pictures of the completed paint job taken in the California sunshine or fuzzy WW2 photos taken in theatre. One even decries 'no evidence of panel shading or panel lines can be seen'. Lets see now, it's a freshly completely overhauled, freshly painted real airplane, not a model headed for a table @ the IPMS show. There wouldn't be any 'panel lines or shading' on a clean, fresh paint job.

Several claim the colors aren't 'right' and speculate the paint applied by the Luftwaffe (or not) nearly 70 years ago in Russia came from experimental German supplies, French factories, local Russian supplies, or a Pratt and Lambert store in Oshkosh, WI. or who knows. I agree that there are some very knowledgeable individuals on the discussion, including folks who are recognized as knowing their markings and German paints and this one will strongly divide factions for ever, as for me, I'm just going to show up @ KPAE and relish the sights and sounds. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Knowing the level of accuracy that is demanded by FHC (and we have a few forum members with intimate knowledge of that policy) coupled with Mr. Allens ability to get his hands on any sort of electronic analyzer equipment you'd care to dream up, I'll bet the paint, colors, application, and finish are as dead on the money as you can get and I seriously doubt, as one submitter speculated 'someone painted the airplane after it crashed'. :o



:lol: :lol:

You should spend more time in modeling forums. Be grateful that FHC didn't publish the dimensions of the Fw190. That would make for a lively debate as modelers pull out their drawings and tape measures! I'm sure the panel shading comment was a joke at the expense of the accuracy police.

But, some amazing nuggets of new and correct information surface from time to time from the modeling groups.
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Re: Rumor has it, another FW-190 has flown!

Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:52 pm

The Inspector wrote:And, at least one modellers forum is having fits and hair pulling, clothes rending anguish because the 'color, application, tint, shading, is wrong. 'That looks like French chestnut brown' 'that looks like Italian green' 'is that RLM002 interior black on the tail?' All this from a handful of pictures of the completed paint job taken in the California sunshine or fuzzy WW2 photos taken in theatre. One even decries 'no evidence of panel shading or panel lines can be seen'. Lets see now, it's a freshly completely overhauled, freshly painted real airplane, not a model headed for a table @ the IPMS show. There wouldn't be any 'panel lines or shading' on a clean, fresh paint job.

Several claim the colors aren't 'right' and speculate the paint applied by the Luftwaffe (or not) nearly 70 years ago in Russia came from experimental German supplies, French factories, local Russian supplies, or a Pratt and Lambert store in Oshkosh, WI. or who knows. I agree that there are some very knowledgeable individuals on the discussion, including folks who are recognized as knowing their markings and German paints and this one will strongly divide factions for ever, as for me, I'm just going to show up @ KPAE and relish the sights and sounds. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Knowing the level of accuracy that is demanded by FHC (and we have a few forum members with intimate knowledge of that policy) coupled with Mr. Allens ability to get his hands on any sort of electronic analyzer equipment you'd care to dream up, I'll bet the paint, colors, application, and finish are as dead on the money as you can get and I seriously doubt, as one submitter speculated 'someone painted the airplane after it crashed'. :o


They also didn't pre-shade the panel lines or spray on thick gun stains. And what will the judges say about the lack of chipped paint? :twisted:
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