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Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:16 pm
Hello CubstoJets:
Here is another little known source of USN/USMC/USCG photos.
U.S. Naval Institite
291 Wood Rd
Annapolis, MD 21402-5035
Attn: Photographic Branch
In the past whan I was researching a specific photo of an aircraft (e.g. PB2B-2 Catalina) the USNI would send me a xerox copy of the selection(s). If I elected to purchase an 8 x 10 glossy of any of the samples I would return the xerox with the appropriate funds and week or so later receive the nice glossy.
BTW, if you want me to snail mail you a photocopy copy (or FAX) of the USMC NE's photographed in the Russell Islands please forward the appropriate info and I'll do so. As commented in one of the threads above the A/C seem to be Piper L-4's which were not the procured USN NE. And...after looking at (and thinking!) the S/N's on the tails are USAAF numbers!!
Joe Baugher's list does make any comment about this S/N allocaton. Perhaps I'll send him a note...
Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:01 pm
Welcome to WIX! Saw your airplane yesterday. I have several hours in your cub when it was modified to tow gliders and even made a dead stick landing in it back then. WW II "Hump" pilot Garland Pack, bought your aircraft surplus with the 3 TG-3A gliders at Clarksville, Tn. outside of Ft. Campbell.
You may be able to keep your cub in your home town, I have a friend that has a new hangar with concrete floor and 2,000' grass in Westmoreland, Tn. Let me know if I can be of help.
J.B.
Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:12 pm
I havn't been on this site in quite a while but thought I would post a picture. Again my plane is nothing compared to what you play with but I enjoy it just the same.

I have no idea if I am doing the picture correctly but try I will.
Joe
Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:17 pm
Joe G wrote:I havn't been on this site in quite a while but thought I would post a picture. Again my plane is nothing compared to what you play with but I enjoy it just the same.

I have no idea if I am doing the picture correctly but try I will.
Joe

Looks good to me. L-4, NE-1 or P-51 they all had their role back in the war.
Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:20 pm
Joe G wrote:I havn't been on this site in quite a while but thought I would post a picture. Again my plane is nothing compared to what you play with but I enjoy it just the same.

I have no idea if I am doing the picture correctly but try I will.
Joe

Unfortunately I can't read the BuNo., but here's a "224" in July 1942. "Navy Trainers, NE-1, on the line. July 25, 1942"

Regards,
Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:06 pm
Does anyone have any idea where the picture above might have been taken? 224 would have been 3 months old in July 42. Love the Pic, thanks.
Joe
Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:48 am
FWIW could it be NRAB Peru, Indiana ???
In Mel Shettles' book US Naval Air Stations of WWII Vol 1, pg 41, he states that on September of 1942 "limited flight training in NE-1 Piper Cubs began from an open grass area of the base". I must admit that the background does sorta of look like a farm environment of the mid-west. Shettle goes on to state that in Jan'43 the base was renamed NAS Peru only to be changed 3 mos later to NAS Bunker Hill...eventually became Grissom AFB.
Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:50 am
It is most likely in the US somewhere. I believe 224 spent its time in the US with a brief period in Canada.
Joe
Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:59 am
If you haven't already done so, you can request the Aircraft History Card from NASM.
They will mail a copy right to your door and it's free. Usually only takes a couple of weeks.
There's an e-mail hyperlink in OBTAINING AIRCRAFT HISTORY CARDS,
http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/arch/co ... istory.cfm You can also call, 202-633-2320 with any questions.
Regards,
Mike
Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:15 pm
mike furline wrote:If you haven't already done so, you can request the Aircraft History Card from NASM.
They will mail a copy right to your door and it's free. Usually only takes a couple of weeks.
There's an e-mail hyperlink in OBTAINING AIRCRAFT HISTORY CARDS,
http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/arch/co ... istory.cfm You can also call, 202-633-2320 with any questions.
Regards,
Mike
It might be a long wait, as the Archives section is currently being packed up for their move to Udvar-Hazy. From what my friends there told me, they won't be processing orders for such things until they are in their new facility. I may be wrong of course, but that's what I was told. It will be a while before the move takes place though.
All the best,
Richard
Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:20 pm
RMAllnutt wrote:mike furline wrote:If you haven't already done so, you can request the Aircraft History Card from NASM.
They will mail a copy right to your door and it's free. Usually only takes a couple of weeks.
There's an e-mail hyperlink in OBTAINING AIRCRAFT HISTORY CARDS,
http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/arch/co ... istory.cfm You can also call, 202-633-2320 with any questions.
Regards,
Mike
It might be a long wait, as the Archives section is currently being packed up for their move to Udvar-Hazy. From what my friends there told me, they won't be processing orders for such things until they are in their new facility. I may be wrong of course, but that's what I was told. It will be a while before the move takes place though.
All the best,
Richard
The Aircraft History Card information is kept in the Library at the Mall location (original NASM building). The "Archives" kept at the Garber Facility are in transit.
Regards,
Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:12 pm
Garland Pack bought your Cub and the others and the TG-3 gliders from an operation that was set up at the Clarksville, Tn. airport. It had operated a few years before he moved the glider operation to Murfreesboro , Tn. in 1960. The story was that the equipment had been surplused and stored near Ft. Campbell. after the war.
Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:36 pm
Between the Navy and Garland it was owned by a local university at one time. I don't recall which one right now, but it is documented in the aircrafts records.
I have contacted NASM for any records they have and I am looking forward to their response.
Joe
Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:33 am
marine air wrote:Welcome to WIX! Saw your airplane yesterday. I have several hours in your cub when it was modified to tow gliders and even made a dead stick landing in it back then. WW II "Hump" pilot Garland Pack, bought your aircraft surplus with the 3 TG-3A gliders at Clarksville, Tn. outside of Ft. Campbell.
J.B,
That's some neat history, especially since I was stationed at Ft Campbell several years ago. Do you happen to have any idea what modifications the Navy made to tow gliders with a 65hp J-3?
I've got a 100hp J-3 with a metal climb prop that I was wondering if it was capable of towing an antique-ish Schweizer SGU 2-22?
Mike-
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