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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:43 pm 
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You are at the I.P. Start your bombing run!

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Lynn Allen wrote:
whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:
i don't see it


Go up from the #1 spinner, across the channel and about a inch to the right and there she is... :wink:


ahhhh.....there she is! Thanks for helping me out :D

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You are at the I.P. Start your bombing run!

But leave the battleship alone....pretty little refineries all in a row... :D

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Pat Carry wrote:
You are at the I.P. Start your bombing run!

But leave the battleship alone....pretty little refineries all in a row... :D


Leave those refineries alone! I pay enough for gas as it is... don't give em more reasons to jack up the price.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:13 pm 
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And amazingly enough I believe the siege of the Alamo started on Feb. 23... 165 years ago.

I have pictures of me and my brothers on the BBS Texas Anti-aircraft guns when we were wee little lads and I came across some of my nephews from 30 years later on the same guns.

Will try and find pics of both.

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These photos were taken around 1997, not from a Fortress but from a Cessna 182.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:09 pm 
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Anyone who is down Houston way and who has not been there should go see the Battleship Texas. It is located just east of downtown Houston, just a few miles north of the Gulf freeway, Hwy 45, that goes from Houston to Galveston. I think Pasadena might be the closest town.
One other good thing to see at the same location is the San Jacinto Monument, museum and battle grounds. They are right next to where the Texas is docked.

For those, or should I say youse guys, not fortunate enough to be born in Texas and may not know of San Jacinto, here is a quick history. In the Early 1800s Mexico controlled Texas and invited settlers in from the states. Some who came were peaceful farmers,but some were spirited frontier types like Davy Crockett and above all Jim Bowie, famous for his large knife, ( like the one in the Crocodile Dundee movie)and his large appetite for whiskey, and their spokesman was the fiery William Barrett Travis, who was one of those independence minded types not to be walked on. Mexico then decided to clamp down , but too late, the genie was already out of the bottle, or for Bowie the cork out of many bottles. Mexico was run by a dictator, Gen. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, who was about as big an ass as any we have now. He brought an army of about 5000 into Texas to San Antonio where the Texans were in an old mission, the Alamo. It was pretty one sided several thousand against 187, but the Texans had some cannon and were great marksman and they held out for 13 days of the siege. Finally the Mexican cannon knocked down the north wall and they got inside the fort, killing all but a few women and kids. The Texans took a huge toll of Santa Annas army perhaps at thousand or more dead or dying of wounds. Gen. Cos said of his main brigade that led the battle, "We brought 800 of the finest soldiers here and we left 660 of them dead on the ground." Santa Anna was not used to being defied and he called it, "a small affair", as it was for him since he stayed well behind the fighting. There were so many bodies that most were burned or thrown in the river, not buried.
Santa Anna moved east, toward other Texas forces and govt., as Gen Sam Houston retreated. At San Jacinto, the Texans had enough of running. Their force of about 800 attacked Santa Anna's army of twice that size. Many of the Mexican soldiers threw down their weapons and ran. There had also been a massacre of 400 Texas prisoners who had surrended at Goliad. The Mexican soldiers yelled "Me no Alamo, Me no Goliad". The Texans were not in a mood to take prisoners,and it was all over in 18 minutes. The "Napoleon of The West" tried to disguise as a private, but was captured. Houston let him live when he signed the treaty. Texas was now a free nation. That is San Jacinto and the monument to it it there. Go see them both, you can do it in half a day.


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Thanks for the cliff notes' history lesson on Texan Independence. I've never heard it put so succinctly. Well done!

One correction though, on the directions. The Battleship Texas/San Jacinto monument is just north of Hwy 225. You can access the park via 225 from the south or take a ferry from the north (Crosby/Lynchburg Ferry). The Battlegrounds are quite a ways from 45 and are close to Deer Park. Just an fyi for anyone planning on a visit. Please go and see the Texas and the monument. The Battleship Texas is one of the best museum ships as far as access is concerned, but is short on historical documentation - here isn't much reading material on board.
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that battle wagon is awesome

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How does the USS Texas do financially? Is it a popular destination?

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I don't know how it is doing financially, but it is administered by the Texas Parks & Wildlife Department.


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I was out in Texas over Christmas and took a whole slew of younguns to see it.Very impressive indeed and the kids couldnt tear anything up.I talked with one of the folks working in the giftshop and said the ship maybe moving to galveston because of the out of the way place she is in now.She has a small group of very dedicated people that keep her up and they were reenstalling a boffers mount.What a cool toy that would be.Well worth the visit.

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they were reenstalling a boffers mount.What a cool toy that would be.Well worth the visit.

Huh...huh, huh..huh, huh..huh..he said boffer. Huh..huh.. :D

They either brought back the old hooker(don't know that that would help attendance), or the visitors are going to start flogging
each other with foam covered weapons(may help attendance but the old folks may not appreciate that after awhile), or they're reinstalling a Bofors mount. :wink:

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I hope that someday there is a restored Vought OS2U Kingfisher on floats that could do photo passes over each of the surviving American battleships.

Along with the other historic details I believe that USS Texas is the largest surviving example of riveted ship construction surviving. Some years ago she was leaking badly and I had heard there are long term thoughts of putting her in drydock status. Any word on that?

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I hope that someday there is a restored Vought OS2U Kingfisher on floats that could do photo passes over each of the surviving American battleships.

Along with the other historic details I believe that USS Texas is the largest surviving example of riveted ship construction surviving. Some years ago she was leaking badly and I had heard there are long term thoughts of putting her in drydock status. Any word on that?


hi john, i'm from mass. as well and i'm sure you've been to the uss massachusetts. i believe they dry docked her and redid her hull from years of sitting in the water. If this happened to the mass. and the miss. it could happen to this ship as well

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