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 Post subject: Red Bull P-38L
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Ezell Aviation have just updated their website photo's for Red Bull P-38L restoration

http://www.ezellaviation.com/Projects%20Sub/P-38.htm

Looks like an Award Winner !

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Looks like it did when it was coming down the assembly line during original production.
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Man I love seeing stuff like that.

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Shay wrote:
Man I love seeing stuff like that.

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Those detail shots of the work are great.

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Does anyone know if the P-38 is leaving the U.S. permanently after restoration. My understanding is that it will be shipped to Europe(Austria)and stay there for good. If that is true, it is a damned shame.


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Im lost. Could someone tell me what im looking at in those pics?

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systemofadown1162 wrote:
Im lost. Could someone tell me what im looking at in those pics?

The nose and centre section of the former 'White Lightnin' P-38 being restored by Ezell Aviation for Red Bull in Austria.
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Tigercat wrote:
Does anyone know if the P-38 is leaving the U.S. permanently after restoration. My understanding is that it will be shipped to Europe(Austria)and stay there for good. If that is true, it is a damned shame.

Why? There are other flying Lightnings in the USA. There are none in Europe or elsewhere. When we grow up, it's nice to learn to share our toys. :wink:

Without Red Bull it may not have been rebuilt as the Gardners were finding the fundraising impossible.

Let's not be parochial. 8)

[Edited to correct Speeling ;) ]

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Raven, It's arguably one of the most iconic aircraft of the earliest days
of the US Warbird's and the Confederate Air Force.

Tigercat, What the dollar taketh away, the dollar can bringeth back. :wink:

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I wont weigh in on my feelings about this discussion, but I am very interested in seeing this great plane completely restored and put back in the air again.

I will say that "Gardiner" is not the correct name. It is Gardner, as in Lefty Gardner, Max Gardner, and Ronnie Gardner. None related, but all important pilots in the warbird movement. I like that last name myself, so I thought I would mention the incorrect speeling.. :wink:

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I hope they polish it to within an inch of it's life! Say NO to silver paint... :evil:

Gee, I wonder if they have the P-38 repair video?

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http://www.tinmantech.com/videos/P38.ram

http://www.tinmantech.com/html/vintage_aircraft_videos.html#P38
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Raven, It's arguably one of the most iconic aircraft of the earliest days of the US Warbird's and the Confederate Air Force

Absolutely. I'd actually go further and say it's one of the true greats of the warbird and racing scene, and a personal fave of mine - but I thought the US believed in free trade?

What matters is that it's being restored to fly. Warbirds move around the globe, and that's a good thing. The Fork Tailed Devil was rather important in Austria 60 years or so ago. Don't you think it's a good thing that an Austrian organisation is putting a Lightning back in European skies to show the wonders of American technology?

I've travelled the world to see warbirds. I really don't care where they are as long as they are valued and looked after. Where there is a bunch of a type, having representatives in other countries has got to be a good thing.

There was plenty of oportunity for US$ to put the aircraft in the air again. They didn't appear. The real choice was staying as a rebuild project (for how long?) or flying in Europe. It may well end up back in the US. That, too would be good. But in the meantime, it will be unique in Europe. That's fantastic.

I can't agree with the "I want all my nation's toys in my nation's toybox" attitude. Every warbird operating country has foreign machines as part of the scene. Mono-national collections are dull and one sided.

Just a few thoughts folks.

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It will be raining P38s before too long - there are 4 at Wangarratta plus some comming out of the Phillipines and 4 more went to ythe US a year or so back - I wouldn' t get upset over just one leaving

Here are some pics from Wangarratta of the P38s , P40s, P39s, Kingfishers, Vengances and A20s in the shop at present - no need to worry cause s lot of this is headed to the US eventually


http://community.webshots.com/user/setter126007
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