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Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:20 pm

To continue this blatant thread hijacking. . . :wink:

The Greatest Generation Aircraft guys (B-25 Pacific Prowler, C-49J Southern Cross, B-26K Special K, et al) have acquired a bunch of CG-4 remains from somewhere in west Texas (perhaps from the glider museum?) and their intention is to build up a flying CG-4 and perhaps tow it aloft with Southern Cross. Time will tell, but the CG-4's cockpit frame was looking pretty good two weekends ago. . .

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:46 pm

Django wrote:
For shame for putting it in markings that it actually wore? C'mon! :roll: :shock:


:lol: :lol: :lol: Actually, the owners really wanted it done up in 357th FG colors with the red and yellow nose checks and "Glamous G_____ III" on the side! :twisted:

As far as the comments go, The props will get their do over when the time comes.
It will be at OSH for those who are going.
In a few years it is planned to go to the UK with the owner.
Jerry

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:37 pm

so it's home isn't in oxford,ct? Wish we could have it for one of our airshows

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:57 pm

Nice, is that what you will be flying down to Texas in? :P

Will it be in Oxford on August 12th-14th with EAA's Aluminum Overcast?

Thanks,
Phil

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:09 pm

It's home is Oxford for the next few years.
Eventually, the owner wants to take it back to the UK with him.

Phil;
It should be there when EAA's B-17 stops by, but there is a chance it might go that weekend to the Pease Show in New Hampshire.
Jerry

BTW, I 'm not going to Texas with those rabble rousers!(though I wish I was)I'm working Ops at the Pease Show.

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:33 am

their intention is to build up a flying CG-4 and perhaps tow it aloft with Southern Cross.


What kind of hoops would they have to jump through with the FAA to certify and register a CG-4A for flight?

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:25 am

No different than anything else. If it was a rebuilt with an 'original' identity, it would probably be Restricted, if it were 100% new it would be registered like any other homebuilt.

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:49 pm

Here are a couple of pics I got on saturday in ACK.

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One of these things is not like the other. :)

It was good to run into Nick, they went to the Island for lunch. I was working.

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:23 pm

Looks great sittin' outside in the sunshine :D

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:58 pm

She looks great! I can imagine the amount of work to get there.

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:48 am

Actually, the owners really wanted it done up in 357th FG colors with the red and yellow nose checks and "Glamous G_____ III" on the side!

As long as we're thread-jackig, allow me to take this further afield. You might get a chuckle out of this new set of P-51 model decals.

http://hyperscale.com/2011/reviews/decals/barracudacals32009previewbg_.htm

Option #3 is most...interesting. :lol:

Amorous Len III. S/N 44-14888 with the 357th Fighter Group, 363rd Fighter Squadron, 8th Air Force. Flown by Captain Reager from Yoxford Airfield, England, 1944-45. This fictional airplane can be easily adapted to represent another well known aircraft of this unit.


Betcha Barracuda Studios still gets a call from a certain person's lawyers...

SN

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:05 am

To think that it's come to this.
That's disgusting. :vom:
Jerry

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:00 am

1) Thanks for more pics of a fantastic C-47! Does the inside look as great as the outside?

2) Can someone please explain to me what legal basis exists (if any) that would give Gen. Reager standing to complain about a name painted on a US gubment aircraft while he was in gubment service 60+ years ago? I understand the temerity of a mom & pop decal shop wanted to avoid any potential fights with said retired General, but in real terms, what could happen here besides a few strongly worded letters if someone made airplane model decals with a couple of well placed "g"s in them? I know we have a few law talking types on this thread, so I'd appreciate their input (if it's informed). The silliness with this issue seems extraordinarily strong to me.

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:10 pm

StangStung wrote:1) Thanks for more pics of a fantastic C-47! Does the inside look as great as the outside?

2) Can someone please explain to me what legal basis exists (if any) that would give Gen. Reager standing to complain about a name painted on a US gubment aircraft while he was in gubment service 60+ years ago? I understand the temerity of a mom & pop decal shop wanted to avoid any potential fights with said retired General, but in real terms, what could happen here besides a few strongly worded letters if someone made airplane model decals with a couple of well placed "g"s in them? I know we have a few law talking types on this thread, so I'd appreciate their input (if it's informed). The silliness with this issue seems extraordinarily strong to me.


I can't comment on the "Reager" thing, as I might get sued for using an historical figures name, but the interior of the C-47 is still cargo, no troop seats yet, but it currently has eight first class, leather airliner seats. Nice ride though!
Jerry

Re: Momma gets a new coat of paint! C-47 Oxford, CT

Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:56 pm

Thanks for the interior intel Jerry! I'm jealous you've had a chance to check it out!

And as for Reager...I'm going to wait for an explanation of actual grounds for a claim against a decal manufacturer. I get that he may be irked by people making money off his name in one fashion or another. But the fact that someone making decals depicting a plane used in govt service ages ago for a kids toy is actively going out of their way not to offend tells me this is complete bullshizzy. I'd love to read the complaint on that one.

A tale for another time I suppose.
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