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Re: Frasca, CAF, CFM P-40s

Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:20 am

I'm sure somebody else can find a better version but here is a picture of the picture hanging on the wall in the CAF hanger in Midland. I took this a couple of hours ago. Sorry it isn't better.

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This is the only picture I could find of #42. Hopefully somebody else has a better one.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/AL17 ... 42a4th.jpg

Re: Frasca, CAF, CFM P-40s

Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:40 am

Here is Kermit,s P-40E. It was damaged during Hurricane Andrew.
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Mark Fidler

Re: Frasca, CAF, CFM P-40s

Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:20 am

Kermit Weeks P-40E is currently in storage at Salinas with Cal-Pacific Airmotive.
Brad: thanks for posting the air-air photo.

Re: Frasca, CAF, CFM P-40s

Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:28 am

I believe Budd Davidson use to have a website where you could buy copies of his more famous images, this shot of the three P-40's being one. I think it was taken 1975 or 1976.
My favorite shot, which I believe is from the same shoot, is a rear shoot looking down at the stack of three P-40's coming at the camera plane.
Budd also had a great shot and one that was once a cover on AC, of my favorite Mustang, "Passion Wagon", head-on and about as close to the tail of the B-25 camera ship that you'd dare go!
Jerry

Re: Frasca, CAF, CFM P-40s

Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:44 pm

Jerry O'Neill wrote:I believe Budd Davidson use to have a website where you could buy copies of his more famous images, this shot of the three P-40's being one. I think it was taken 1975 or 1976.
My favorite shot, which I believe is from the same shoot, is a rear shoot looking down at the stack of three P-40's coming at the camera plane.
Budd also had a great shot and one that was once a cover on AC, of my favorite Mustang, "Passion Wagon", head-on and about as close to the tail of the B-25 camera ship that you'd dare go!
Jerry


I have no way of knowing what aircraft was used for the "Passion Wagon" but I have heard Budd describe getting head on shots while shooting out the side of an aircraft by having both aircraft "scissor" left and right. After a couple of iterations he could usually get shot that looks head on when in reality both aircraft are turning away from each other. Very cool and great flying.

Re: Frasca, CAF, CFM P-40s

Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:31 am

I remember that Mustang Air Classics cover.

Another of his great AC covers was a Corsair shot using the scissor method that John describes. I have heard Budd speak at seminars at OSH about the technique.

Most of today's air-to-air photographers of vintage aircraft owe something to Budd. He worked out most of the techniques still being used. A lot of pics we see published today are just Budd's pics with a different plane in them.

He now has a site called airbum.com and he runs the magazine Flight Journal. However I suspect the rights to many of the great old pics we are talking about are owned by Challenge and so Budd cannot publish or sell them. He also fancies himself a novelist and political blogger now, but he would be better off sticking with photography and airplanes!

The version of the P-40 poster that I have has the planes stacked more vertically than the ones we have seen, and is my favorite from the shoot. I do have the AC article with black and white versions of several of the others, including the 3-out-the-tail.

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