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Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:38 pm
How many Bf-108's are flying and whats the ballpark price now a days?
Thanks,
Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:54 pm
no clue..... but as of 1960 or 61 i can account for 1...... remember the movie "the great escape" with steve mcqueen, donald pleasanse, james garner to name a few stars?? garner & pleasanse escaped in an me - 108 they swiped from a german air field & then crashed with garner being re- captured & pleasanse being a casualty.
Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:07 pm
Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:19 pm
We had a good friend in Surrey, BC who owned a ME-108. Actually it may have been a Nord with a Renault engine. Franz Stigler was a ace in IIJG-27/JV-44 and it was very cool to fly with a Luftwaffe ace in his own Messerschmitt!!! This was around 1978 or so.
I remember it was C-GRIT and he based it at Langley Air Park and flew a X-RCAF instructor named Tony Swain who still flies his HVD IV out of there.
Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:57 am
[no clue..... but as of 1960 or 61 i can account for 1...... remember the movie "the great escape" with steve mcqueen, donald pleasanse, james garner to name a few stars?? garner & pleasanse escaped in an me - 108 they swiped from a german air field & then crashed with garner being re- captured & pleasanse being a casualty.]
Excellent movie but that wasn't an Me-108....fixed gear and 2 place, and it's been driving me crazy trying to remember what it was.... BTW I think there are about 2 108's flying in the states and several overseas counting the Messerschmitt over Malta! I don't post as much as I should and look forward to reading and seeing all the great stuff on WIX....Thanks to all, Steve.
Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:04 am
2 airworthy in the UK that I know of, both Nords. The re-engined one that visited Malta last weekend, and the former Lindsay Walton G-ATBG (which Lindsay was kind enough to give me a ride in once), now with a new owner.
Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:34 am
slinky wrote:Excellent movie but that wasn't an Me-108....fixed gear and 2 place, and it's been driving me crazy trying to remember what it was....
Soooo..we're talking a Bucker 181 or an Arado 79? Tom, did you forget
Von Ryan's Express?
Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:34 am
It was a Bucker Bestman.
Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:13 am
airnutz, by golly your right!! but other than the plane's fixed gear, they had simular lines. i understand where i screwed up. i stand corrected.
Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:05 am
airnutz!!!! You nailed it, the Bu-181!!!!!! Thanks, I had thought Bucker or Klemm last night and couldn't come up with it!

You Da MAN!

'Bout drove me crazy!!!!!
And speaking of 108s int the movies, how about the 2 in the script of "The Longest Day", though I can't remember ever seeing both onscreen except at the airfield.... And that may have been a matt backdrop....
Check these Buckers out esp when G-GLSU was D-EDUB with a muffler!!!![
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=B%FCcker%20B%FC-181&distinct_entry=true]
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slinky on Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:33 am, edited 2 times in total.
Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:24 am
Franz Stigler sold his 108 in the early 80s. Whom ever bought it crashed it and it was sold to a chap in australia named Ben Sampson who when last heard from was rebuilding it. I noticed that it wasn't on the siite about surviving axis warbirds given previously. Any updates on this one???
I'll look for photos.
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:33 pm
Slinky, boy you are "one lost soul", if I'm Da Man! If I was Da Man, I
wouldn't be stumped by your comment about the Klemm. I don't
remember Klemm building a cabin-job similar to the 108 or 181. Maybe your thinking of the Saab 91 Safir? If I remember correctly, the Swede
designer of the Safir worked for Bucker on the Bestmann project, so
the Saab has more-than-a-little resemblance to the Bu-181. I may be
able to help you with your Airliners link tho...
Bucker Bu-181 G-GLSU, Luftwaffe colors
www.airliners.net/open.file/860886/M/
Bucker Bu-181, in her former Swede AF colors, which I prefer, D-EDUB
what a beauty!!
www.airliners.net/open.file/412441/M/
and
www.airliners.net/open.file/412440/M/
A Saab 91 Safir in Switzerland
www.airliners.net/open.file/928632/L/
And I think Brad posted some photos of some/or a Safir in Africa a while
back, from one of his USAF vacations in the C-17...not sure tho.
Jack, Ben Sampson's Nord 1002 is listed on the Preserved Axis website,
6th listing from the bottom on the 108 page.
www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/Luftwaffe ... /me108.htm
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:57 pm
Airnutz, you are almost as crazy as I am....

I spent about 3 hrs on my dialup downloading all those! Pretty cool planes....I'd probably trade my Citabria for one just because it was the type from the movie and has a stick!

Yeah, I was off on the Klemm part, still cool planes too! Hey another really cool one I was looking at is the Sipa 903....

Look them up. Pretty cute little plane and supposed to be limited akro. and on the Saab 91D Safir, no I wasn't thinking of it because of the tri-gear, but what a beauty! I love the scheme on this one.... Well, I couldn't get a short link lik you had with a right click.... It's the silver one in a bank....
Tailwinds, Steve.
Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:02 am
Slinky, actually you weren't off with your thoughts on the Klemm. They
had a pre WW2 model, of which few were built. Post-war a similar model
was built as the Klemm KL.107, it's a fixed gear cabin similar appearance
to the Bestman. Post Hurri. Rita not all of my reference books are quick
to reach...still sorting thins out..but I found a sketch of it in the "old
faithful" ref., Aircraft of the World 1490-1976. Sorry no web photos,
they're rare.
Yep, the Sipa is pretty nice..almost like a fixed-gear Globe Swift.
But back to the subject of BF-108/Nord 1002's....
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