Warbird Information Exchange

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on this site are the responsibility of the poster and do not reflect the views of the management.
It is currently Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:16 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Classic Wings Magazine WWII Naval Aviation Research Pacific Luftwaffe Resource Center
When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Grasshoppers forever!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:17 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:05 pm
Posts: 915
Location: ELP
Or something to that effect.

What can I say, I like the L-4.

Here are a couple of shots from the Cannon AFB open house yesterday:

Image

Image



And some older ones from the past:

Image

Image

Image

_________________
Had God intended for man to fly behind inline engines, Pratt & Whitney would have made them.

CB

http://www.angelfire.com/dc/jinxx1/Desrt_Wings.html


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:12 pm 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!

Joined: Thu May 27, 2004 8:06 pm
Posts: 1662
Location: Baltimore MD
Nice photos. If you want to save your original mooring kit case from being slowly destroyed, I had a prototype reproduction made of mine by a military vehicle canvas company, and he can make more. They are expensive, and not EXACTLY correct, but nicely done.

_________________
REMEMBER THE SERGEANT PILOTS!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:07 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:29 pm
Posts: 4527
Location: Dallas, TX
Just how expensive John?

Ryan

_________________
Aerial Photographer with Red Wing Aerial Photography currently based at KRBD and tailwheel CFI.
Websites: Texas Tailwheel Flight Training, DoolittleRaid.com and Lbirds.com.

The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. - Prov. 21:31 - Train, Practice, Trust.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:23 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:24 am
Posts: 203
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
I am kind of partial to them too. Here is what they do best.

Image

Image

Image

_________________
Flying Piper L4-J 45-55209


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:30 pm 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:29 pm
Posts: 4527
Location: Dallas, TX
I had a pilot in town last week all the way from Hiroshima, Japan, to fly some tailwheel aircraft! We did a bunch of Cub flying, and we had a blast. I found out that he sometimes goes to Guam to fly (Private aircraft in Japan are rare, and fees are high) and I decided I had to get him in our L-5, which was sold post-war on Guam before returning to the States.

Image

Ryan

_________________
Aerial Photographer with Red Wing Aerial Photography currently based at KRBD and tailwheel CFI.
Websites: Texas Tailwheel Flight Training, DoolittleRaid.com and Lbirds.com.

The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. - Prov. 21:31 - Train, Practice, Trust.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:49 pm 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:21 pm
Posts: 1329
Location: Dallas TX
Not really a true "Grasshopper", but how about some Sentinel...

Image
EAA Photo

Image
OSH '09

Image
NOS Mooring Kit... I'd be interested in a couple Repros if available...

Image
The Office...

Image
The talkin' boxes...

Few vintage photos...

Image

Image
L-5F

Image
No Smoking within 100ft... Or an artillery round.... you decide.

Image

Image
No fun...

Image
Prototype...

Image
Mascot...

Image
Test Pilot - "You want me to do what!?"


Grasshoppers-

Image

Image

Image

_________________
Taylor Stevenson


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:48 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:10 am
Posts: 9720
Location: Pittsburgher misplaced in Oshkosh
L-birds rock! I got to fly an L-21B a good bit, not sure if that counts, but it was a blast.

_________________
Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Manager


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:09 pm 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!

Joined: Thu May 27, 2004 8:06 pm
Posts: 1662
Location: Baltimore MD
They can be made on demand. Last price I had was north of $200 each. They are a lot of work.

_________________
REMEMBER THE SERGEANT PILOTS!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:35 am 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:21 pm
Posts: 1329
Location: Dallas TX
mustangdriver wrote:
L-birds rock! I got to fly an L-21B a good bit, not sure if that counts, but it was a blast.


100% Counts... Great airplane!

FF,
Do you make them? If so, where do you get the vintage fabric? I'll be looking for some of the mustard color canvas that went in L-5s during WWII and I can't find a source yet. I've seen all colors of canvas used in L-5s... mustard, brown, OD, and even turquoise (all from original samples). I'll let you know if/when I need a Mooring Kit.

T

_________________
Taylor Stevenson


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:26 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club

Joined: Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am
Posts: 3236
RyanShort1 wrote:
I had a pilot in town last week all the way from Hiroshima, Japan, to fly some tailwheel aircraft! We did a bunch of Cub flying, and we had a blast. I found out that he sometimes goes to Guam to fly (Private aircraft in Japan are rare, and fees are high) and I decided I had to get him in our L-5, which was sold post-war on Guam before returning to the States.

Image

Ryan


I see you, Ryan... but, who is the guy on the blue shirt? He doesn't look Japanese to me :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe:

Saludos,


Tulio

_________________
Why take the best part of life out of your life, when you can have life with the best part of your life in your life?

I am one of them 'futbol' people.

Will the previous owner has pics of this double cabin sample

GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Press "1" for English.
Press "2" to disconnect until you have learned to speak English.


Sooooo, how am I going to know to press 1 or 2, if I do not speak English????


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:36 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:29 pm
Posts: 4527
Location: Dallas, TX
Tulio wrote:
I see you, Ryan... but, who is the guy on the blue shirt? He doesn't look Japanese to me :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe:

Saludos,


Tulio

I was afraid that our awful paint scheme might cause some dyslexia here on WIX, but I didn't think it'd strike you Tulio. :lol:
FYI, I'm really close to kicking off a campaign to get the old girl repainted...

Ryan

_________________
Aerial Photographer with Red Wing Aerial Photography currently based at KRBD and tailwheel CFI.
Websites: Texas Tailwheel Flight Training, DoolittleRaid.com and Lbirds.com.

The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. - Prov. 21:31 - Train, Practice, Trust.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:05 am 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:10 am
Posts: 9720
Location: Pittsburgher misplaced in Oshkosh
Taylor, thanks! And great shot of your L-5 in those pics. I was a member of the restoration team on the L-21 along with the crew chief Rob who posts here as warbirdaid. I then got to become a flightcrew meember on it. It was one of the original ones that went to Italy to serve in the Army. It is restored in it's Army markings. It also has flaps! Here is a link with a pic, scroll about half way down
http://www.fortsmithflightmasters.com/fp/fp011101.html

Ryan, The L-bird looks cool. Any ideas on a new paint scheme?

_________________
Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Manager


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:54 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:29 pm
Posts: 4527
Location: Dallas, TX
mustangdriver wrote:
Ryan, The L-bird looks cool. Any ideas on a new paint scheme?

Yes, we have some ideas, but if anyone finds WARTIME photos of a Stinson L-5 (not an OY version) on Guam, I would pay to see them...

Ryan

_________________
Aerial Photographer with Red Wing Aerial Photography currently based at KRBD and tailwheel CFI.
Websites: Texas Tailwheel Flight Training, DoolittleRaid.com and Lbirds.com.

The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. - Prov. 21:31 - Train, Practice, Trust.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:19 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:44 am
Posts: 847
Location: DAL glidepath
Quote:
Not really a true "Grasshopper", but how about some Sentinel...


Expound please...what is the definition of "true grasshopper"?

And thanks for the great L-bird pics!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:35 am 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:21 pm
Posts: 1329
Location: Dallas TX
StangStung wrote:
Quote:
Not really a true "Grasshopper", but how about some Sentinel...


Expound please...what is the definition of "true grasshopper"?

And thanks for the great L-bird pics!



Though no technical definition truly exists, "Grasshopper" generally refers to L-2's, L-3's, and L-4's... the light stuff (though they had various other names "Defender", "Cub", etc.)... They were all light adaptations of currently existing civilian aircraft. The L-5 was designed as a military aircraft from the start and is generally not included in the "Grasshopper" lineage. With 185-198 HP (depending who you talk to), increased useful load, flaps, etc. the L-5 set itself apart from the rest of the 65 HP clan. Though this may a bit of a biased analysis, I feel most would agree with the usage of the term "grasshopper".

Now if we want to debate "Warbug"... 8)

mustangdriver wrote:
Taylor, thanks! And great shot of your L-5 in those pics. I was a member of the restoration team on the L-21 along with the crew chief Rob who posts here as warbirdaid. I then got to become a flightcrew meember on it. It was one of the original ones that went to Italy to serve in the Army. It is restored in it's Army markings. It also has flaps! Here is a link with a pic, scroll about half way down
http://www.fortsmithflightmasters.com/fp/fp011101.html


IIRC most of the L-21s around today came back from Italy. They really are a cool option for anyone who wants a Super Cub... why not restore an L-21 as opposed to getting the boring civvy version :wink: There are usually a few projects floating around. For everyone here, this is the one Chris was involved with. Looks great!

Image

-T

_________________
Taylor Stevenson


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: mike furline and 52 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group