Sun May 15, 2005 1:55 am
A couple of ghost widows seem to be unaccounted for on the west coast. One was seen parked for years in Northern California, I think, then simply seemed to disappear. I don't think its disposition has ever been solved. Then there is the one that could be in a remote structure near Blythe. Apparently, some major parts of this widow were found in an abandoned barracks in the desert.
Sun May 15, 2005 6:08 am
DaveM2 wrote:kalamazookid wrote:Wasn't the one in China bought by Paul Allen?
Rumoured to be, but still in China as of a month ago.
Dave
Sun May 15, 2005 11:25 am
Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:36 pm
george wrote:Regarding Chris' questions on the California widows, I was not aware Bean's plane was scrapped for sure, just that it was thought to be scrapped. Bean was apparently very secretive about what he had out in the desert. Who scrapped it, and where? The Northern California widow is really a mystery, since no one seems to have any info on where it went after leaving Santa Rosa muni in the 60s. One day it was just no longer there! What if the "Tigercat" is actually the Widow. Possible.
Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:02 pm
Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:34 pm
Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:56 am
Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:06 am
gary1954 wrote:Two, count 'em Two ... 1, 2 pages of talk talk talk, and not one (1) photograph.............where the heck did Jack Cook get off to??
Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:09 am
wingman1 wrote:#1 42-39417 P-61A Beijing China Beijing Aeronautics Institute 3 Black Widows were stolen from the USAAF by communist Chinese troops in the final days of WWII. This one is on display at the Institute’s museum outside of Beijing. Jeff Kolln has recently confirmed that the other two were destroyed, and also confirmed the serial number of the survivor.
http://www.johnweeks.com/p61/p61beijing.html
#2 42-39445 P-61B Reading PA Mid-Atlantic Air Museum Recovered in 1990 from a mountain in the south Pacific. Undergoing restoration to flying status.
http://www.johnweeks.com/p61/p61red.html (page has not been updated in some time. aircraft is closer to completion. google is your friend!)
#3 43-8330 P-61C Washington DC National Air And Space Museum As of May, 2006, the Black Widow is on display at the NASM annex, the Udvar Hazy Center near Dullas Airport, after decades of storage at Silver Hills.
http://www.johnweeks.com/p61/p61nasm.html
#4 43-8352 P-61C Dayton OH US Air Force Museum On display in the WWII hangar, marked as 42-39468.
http://www.johnweeks.com/p61/p61dayton.html
Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:22 am
Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:21 pm
Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:22 pm
wingman1 wrote:wingman1 wrote:#1 42-39417 P-61A Beijing China Beijing Aeronautics Institute 3 Black Widows were stolen from the USAAF by communist Chinese troops in the final days of WWII. This one is on display at the Institute’s museum outside of Beijing. Jeff Kolln has recently confirmed that the other two were destroyed, and also confirmed the serial number of the survivor.
http://www.johnweeks.com/p61/p61beijing.html
#2 42-39445 P-61B Reading PA Mid-Atlantic Air Museum Recovered in 1990 from a mountain in the south Pacific. Undergoing restoration to flying status.
http://www.johnweeks.com/p61/p61red.html (page has not been updated in some time. aircraft is closer to completion. google is your friend!)
#3 43-8330 P-61C Washington DC National Air And Space Museum As of May, 2006, the Black Widow is on display at the NASM annex, the Udvar Hazy Center near Dullas Airport, after decades of storage at Silver Hills.
http://www.johnweeks.com/p61/p61nasm.html
#4 43-8352 P-61C Dayton OH US Air Force Museum On display in the WWII hangar, marked as 42-39468.
http://www.johnweeks.com/p61/p61dayton.html
thanks to John A. Weeks III, and his great website...
http://www.johnweeks.com/menu/av.html .....for the info!
Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:13 pm
wingman1 wrote:#1 42-39417 P-61A Beijing China Beijing Aeronautics Institute 3 Black Widows were stolen from the USAAF by communist Chinese troops in the final days of WWII. This one is on display at the Institute’s museum outside of Beijing. Jeff Kolln has recently confirmed that the other two were destroyed, and also confirmed the serial number of the survivor.