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Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:46 pm
Hello All
I have a good friend who would like to build a Storch replica. Does anyone have any knowledge of what is available? I understand there are reduced scale airplanes, are there any full sized? Do the replicas have the same STOL characteristics as the original? all information is appreciated.
Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:52 pm
I flew a Pazmany Storch that is a 3/4 size replica. Even had the bicycle chain flap mechanism that also drooped the ailerons. Had around 150hp Subaru with a reduction drive. I flew it twice, the second time in a 15kt wind. It would roll about 50 feet or so and climb like crazy. With a 15kt headwind and full flaps it felt like it was hovering. I did several 50-75ft landings. Hated the engine and lost one side of the ignition on that flight. He pulled the engine right after that and the airplane has sat engineless for 15 years. I tried to buy it as I think with a O-320 Lyc it would be one heck of a backcountry performer. He won't sell it so it just sits on the ramp and rots.
Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:20 am
At least one of the replica manufacturers got in trouble with the FAA a while back...
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=m ... 589f97faecRyan
Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:46 am
I used to be involved with U.L. aircraft before I litteraly "grew out" of them....
There is a guy by the name of Roger Mann, that used to run an informal business called Rag Wing Aviation.
I built a replica U.L. version of the Pietenpole Air Camper, that was an all wood design, scaled down version of the original tried and true Piet. This was one of the plans built designs put out by Rag Wing. Others included a scaled Pitts Biplane, a two seat Dehaviland Moth, and the Storch. Mann based his designs from an ex-Lockheed engineer...Wayne Ison, of the Mini-Max fame...Ison is like the Quantas Airlines of Homebuilt Ultralight designers...though there have been some fatal accidents involving his designs, they have never been due to structural failure or aircraft design....all pilot error, mostly guys who built their own planes, and never got any formal instruction on how to fly them.
I still have the fuselage of my bird....grandkids love to set in her and make airplane noises....The Red Baron has been shot down countless times in my garage...In 1999, I went thru a house fire, and the Rag Wing I was building escaped fire damage...the fire department wasn't too critical as to where they could put the water either..as the garage wasn't in any danger. I had just finished with the wing construction, and was in the fitting stages of assembling the U.L. when the fire occured... As the fuselage was already varnished, it was in great shape....After two years in dry storage, the wings started showing signs of rot, so I made a rather large bon fire with them, and cooked a few marshmellows and weiners. Fuselage (on gear) has withstood 6 grandkids, and several XX-sized brother-in-laws and neighbors in the last 13 years. It is also utilized by people who want to find out how they will fit inside an ultra light, and also to see if they will be able to get in or out of it...or as I say, " put it on"....yes , I still can, without the wing or it's bracing wires...
In fact, if I don't sell it this spring, one of my sons are thinking about getting the old man to help finish it for flight..
As far as the Storch...I wish I would have started on that project, as it is a two seat design....side by side or tandem...(it would make a great single seat bird for me!) Roger built a few of these and has flown them...He used a Geo Metro 3 cyl. engine, and produced a video showing 50' take-offs and landings...
I believe his were a 3/4 scale..had slats and flaps like the real deal...All wood airframe, easy to build.
G
Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:22 am
I Googled Roger Mann, and came up with an older site that's still up.
WWW.ragwing.netHis Storch replica is listed as an RW-19 for the tandem seat , and RW-20 for the side by side.
Has a video of the RW-19 take-off and landing...
Hope this helps
G