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happymeal · **Joined:** Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:00 am **Posts:** 215

Then you need to READ the story. Plane was flown from France to USA – so nobody took the plane appart. Spare parts, including canons, were shipped, not by previous owner but by new owner.

airnutz · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:03 am

happymeal wrote:

Spare parts, including canons, were shipped, not by previous owner but by new owner.

....Or by the touted full-service freight contractor, Geodis Wilson...not a small company.

happymeal · **Joined:** Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:00 am **Posts:** 215

More exactly by Geodis Wilson on behalf of new owner.

Iclo · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:49 am

Yes, but knowing a bit the french regulation about weapons: what was the exact state of the weapons of this birds? I will be very surprised they are not demilled since a long time...

If it's the case why the US autorities consider them as "weapon" and not as "simple metal parts" ?

PinecastleAAF · **Joined:** Fri May 25, 2007 4:50 pm **Posts:** 1028

Even softskin military vehicles that are in a container with no paperwork get confiscated by customs. They mean business.

PAPERWORK, PAPERWORK, PAPERW0RK.

Wildchild · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:00 pm

happymeal wrote:

Then you need to READ the story. Plane was flown from France to USA – so nobody took the plane appart. Spare parts, including canons, were shipped, not by previous owner but by new owner.

Ok but my point still stands. America and France have different import/export laws, and because of that miscommunication he lost his plane.

My question still stands; why not give it to the CAF?

Mike · **Joined:** Tue May 04, 2004 8:54 am **Posts:** 3331

Wildchild wrote:

happymeal wrote:

Then you need to READ the story. Plane was flown from France to USA – so nobody took the plane appart. Spare parts, including canons, were shipped, not by previous owner but by new owner.

Ok but my point still stands. America and France have different import/export laws, and because of that miscommunication he lost his plane.

My question still stands; why not give it to the CAF?

Nothing to do with miscommunication or different laws. A US company imported it on behalf of a US owner, and did not follow US laws.

RickH · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:23 pm

Why the CAF? There are other worthy nonprofits out there with the ability to maintain and operate the aircraft. CAF isn't the only port in the storm, but who would choose ? The court who awarded the aircraft to the NMNA knows nothing about these aircraft. To them it's just another commodity.

Mike · **Joined:** Tue May 04, 2004 8:54 am **Posts:** 3331

RickH wrote:

Why the CAF? There are other worthy nonprofits out there with the ability to maintain and operate the aircraft. CAF isn't the only port in the storm, but who would choose ? The court who awarded the aircraft to the NMUSAF knows nothing about these aircraft. To them it's just another commodity.

I thought it went to the NMNA?

RickH · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:34 pm

It did, Mike. My fingers were typing faster than my brain ! I fixed it.

Wildchild · **Posted:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:33 pm

Well, the CAF is a dedicated flying muesum, who, in my mind, would have been the best candidate for a flying aircraft on loan from the navy

happymeal · **Joined:** Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:00 am **Posts:** 215

Iclo wrote:

Yes, but knowing a bit the french regulation about weapons: what was the exact state of the weapons of this birds? I will be very surprised they are not demilled since a long time...

If it's the case why the US autorities consider them as "weapon" and not as "simple metal parts" ?

That plane was demilitarised as per the french laws.

Ken · **Posted:** Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:26 am

Unless real facts (the ATF paperwork, the shipper's manifest, audio of the pilot at the border, ATF determination of the demil status of the cannon, etc) come out about exactly what happened or someone from the Court chooses to post, this thread should now fade away. There simply aren't enough facts made public for any of us to make an informed comment.

Accepting the loss of a flying AD has been painful enough.

Ken

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:39 am

The facts http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1201/1 ... ingham.htm

ktst97 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:03 am

mustangdriver wrote:

The facts http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1201/1 ... ingham.htm

The cynical side of my mind tells me that "facts" reported by any agency of the U. S. government do not necessarily represent the actual facts.
Ken's statement in a post above, "There simply aren't enough facts made public for any of us to make an informed comment" hits the ol' nail right on the head.

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