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Fri May 11, 2012 8:24 am
APG85 wrote:Let's just change the name of the plane to
The New Jersey Belle. I think that will make everyone happy.

Agreed.
Fri May 11, 2012 8:28 am
Mustangdriver, please don't spout off 'facts' about the MBMA/NMUSAF Memphis Belle to Dayton dispute. From someone that was there and involved with it, you have some of it right, and some of it wrong. Please stop presenting everything you have heard about it as fact.
Fri May 11, 2012 8:33 am
If this information is true, I hope that someone within the Liberty Foundation has been working with the FAA before signing on the dotted line. With the moratorium on the exemption letters there is no way to add aircraft to an existing exemption letter for historic aircraft flight experiences until at least October 2012. I do not believe that The Movie Memphis Belle is currently on an exemption letter, so there would be no way to offer flights on the aircraft until at least October. I know that there is going to be a meeting at some point this summer to address some concerns with the exemption letter process, but there is no set date that the moratorium will end. Unless Liberty Foundation has some major pull with the FAA (in Washington, not their local FSDO) they are going to have issues with getting The Movie Memphis Belle on their exemption letter to be able to do flights this season (that assumes the moratorium ends in October).
Fri May 11, 2012 8:42 am
hahnej wrote:Mustangdriver, please don't spout off 'facts' about the MBMA/NMUSAF Memphis Belle to Dayton dispute. From someone that was there and involved with it, you have some of it right, and some of it wrong. Please stop presenting everything you have heard about it as fact.
All of my info is from an interview I did on warbird radio with someone very much a part of it then and still a part of it.
Fri May 11, 2012 8:50 am
TAdan wrote:APG85 wrote:Let's just change the name of the plane to
The New Jersey Belle. I think that will make everyone happy.

Agreed.

Does this mean we will have to paint Snooki on it?
Fri May 11, 2012 9:42 am
mustangdriver wrote:TAdan wrote:APG85 wrote:Let's just change the name of the plane to
The New Jersey Belle. I think that will make everyone happy.

Agreed.

Does this mean we will have to paint Snooki on it?
Let's not go that far

Moderator, quick...lock this thread!
Fri May 11, 2012 9:57 am
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Fri May 11, 2012 10:25 am
Does this mean we will have to paint Snooki on it?
I'd suggest they drop Snooki from it....but that would be a terrible thing to do to Seacaucus...
Correcting myself from an above post......"More things happened to those guys in an hour and a half than happened to me in 50 missions" that quote was not from Dave T....it was Bob Morgan at a hanger dance in Lorain, OH. Dave and Bob were both there.
Fri May 11, 2012 10:31 pm
As far as alternate schemes, I like "Old Bill".
The whole taint of Glamous Glennis and Memphis Belle business has really taken away from my enjoyment of my old heroes and innocent childhood emotions of men doing a job well done in classic designs of WWII.
I couldn't care less anymore. I'd like a nice polish job and a forties TWA scheme too, N1B I think.
Chris...
Sat May 12, 2012 1:49 pm
The statement on Warbird Radio says ......
Tune in to Warbird Radio LIVE – Monday morning (May 14th) at 10am EASTERN for all the details
http://www.warbirdradio.com/2012/05/bre ... oundation/I guess we'll know more on Monday
Sat May 12, 2012 4:15 pm
I am in the minority in that I understand why the folks in Memphis made a big deal about Tallichet's plane with markings of a veteran B-17 that still existed and the confusion that surely came from the public over people coming to Mud Island, saying, "Nah, the real one was over in Kansas flying around last weekend, I saw it..."

But since the USAF has it now, is there still an issue? I thought the Memphis folks were the ones who demanded the modification in markings on the flying one?
I hope it comes to the West, I haven't seen her in many years!
I took this right after she got back from England, still in the movie paint job:
Sat May 12, 2012 6:50 pm

Personally, I don't give a rats A double S how its painted or what nose art she carries as long as she remains flyable and available for all of us to see. It is up to us, those that know that this particular airframe is not the "real Belle", educates the un-informed and the young ones, that the real Memphis Belle has a place of honor in the National Museum of the US Air Force located at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, Ohio. How hard is that?
Sat May 12, 2012 7:07 pm
gary1954 wrote:as long as she remains flyable and available for all of us to see.
What he said. Jeez, whine, whine, whine...let's just be thankful it's a B-17 that's alive, well, and flying the skies of the country that built her.
Chappie
Sun May 13, 2012 10:13 am
Waaaaahbird information exchange
Sun May 13, 2012 10:19 am
groundpounder wrote:Waaaaahbird information exchange

Heh heh heh
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