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Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Fri May 18, 2012 1:08 pm

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Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Fri May 18, 2012 2:05 pm

caption for the KG-200 P-47 ground shot:
'Dumshizen, why didn't you tie your bootlaces BEFORE you got in and buckled up?' Ist zu neu?

Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Fri May 18, 2012 3:36 pm

The SNJs and SB2Cs are in a blimp hangar at Glynco. GA. after WW II

Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Fri May 18, 2012 3:46 pm

I want one of everything in that 1st picture. And the 6th.

August

Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Fri May 18, 2012 5:55 pm

The tail on O.D. C-47 minus outer wing panels is l/n 9709, 4223845 C-47A-35-DL (WFU)

The bare metal one is l/n 4837, 4120067, C-53-DO, then NC 61677, N 5107, N 57171, W/O
picture also demonstrates one of the fun things about weighing a tail dragger, the lumber tower (called TARE) that gets weighed along with the airplane, then subtracted from the gross weight @ the tail scale indications unless you have a platform scale to sit on top of that lumberyard explosion.

I think the airplane in the open doorway in picture #1 is the Bfw M-35 so the picture must be prior to one of the early pre war European air tours (1935/36?).

Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Fri May 18, 2012 11:25 pm

Is that an He177 in the fourth photo?

Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Sat May 19, 2012 1:52 am

I was wondering about that one myself. It appears to be the He-274 recon-bomber, a derivative of the 177 with a more conventional four-engine layout.

SN

Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Sat May 19, 2012 5:41 am

Date: 31 OCT 1944
Type: Douglas C-47A-35-DL
Operator: United States Army Air Force - USAAF
Registration: 42-23845
C/n / msn: 9707
First flight:
Engines: 2 Pratt & Whitney R-1830-92
Crew: Fatalities: / Occupants:
Passengers: Fatalities: / Occupants:
Total: Fatalities: / Occupants:
Airplane damage: Written off
Airplane fate: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Location: 21 km (13.1 mls) N of Anchorage-Elmendorf AFB, AK (EDF) (United States of America)
Phase: Unknown (UNK)
Nature: Military
Departure airport: ?
Destination airport: ?
Narrative:
The aircraft crashed after a midair collision, killing at least one occupant.

---Notice the legless 'ghost" walking the floor between the B-25 tail cone and the rolling tool cart.....

Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Sat May 19, 2012 9:51 am

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Sat May 19, 2012 6:39 pm

The He-177 GREIF did have four engines, the Daimler equivalent of the W-3420 ALLISON but only one nacelle and prop per side so that's either an Me-264 or the He-277 or Ju-488 in photo #4.

Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Sat May 19, 2012 7:00 pm

Man these are great! Can you email me a HR copy of Photo 8? and what is the airframe in photo 4?

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Sat May 19, 2012 7:38 pm

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Sat May 19, 2012 8:13 pm

GOGLE IMAGE the Heinkel HE-177 GREIF, Then the HE-277. HE-177, one nacelle per side utilizing a paired W-24 Daimler DB-610 and each engine pair turning one propeller per side through a gearbox in what appears to be a conventional twin engine configuration. The Heinkel HE-277 was a converted 177 airframe using four DB-603 engines in individual nacelles each turning one prop per nacelle two per wing in a standard four engined/four propeller configuration. It displayed some 'unusual' fishtailing characteristics and was modified to a twin fin configuration.
The DB-605 was pretty much a travelling bonfire and prone to catch fire just because it could.

What's the blurred racer, it sort of looks like the Miles-Atwood but I believe the M-A was fixed gear, whatever it is, it definately has a MENASCO stuck on the front end.

Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Sat May 19, 2012 9:00 pm

The Inspector wrote:What's the blurred racer, it sort of looks like the Miles-Atwood but I believe the M-A was fixed gear, whatever it is, it definately has a MENASCO stuck on the front end.


I'll take a guess and say it's a Crosby CR-4.

http://www.daisey-designs.com/nx13688/crosby/crosby.htm

Re: Ahhh!! If only Hangars could talk

Sat May 19, 2012 10:18 pm

TEN wrote:
The Inspector wrote:What's the blurred racer, it sort of looks like the Miles-Atwood but I believe the M-A was fixed gear, whatever it is, it definately has a MENASCO stuck on the front end.


I'll take a guess and say it's a Crosby CR-4.

http://www.daisey-designs.com/nx13688/crosby/crosby.htm

Harry Crosby's racers never entered my tiny mind-thanks 8)
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