San Antonio Warbirds....again
Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:01 pm
WIXers -
I am preparing for another two-week trip out to San Antonio again (Randolph AFB one weeks and Brooks AFB the next). Aside from the Texas Air Museum at Stinson Field, is there anything else worth looking at out there?
Does anyone need any photos of the static displays as Randolph or Lackland? Scott, do you need any shots for the registry of these aircraft? How about the XC-99 at Kelly?
I am preparing for another two-week trip out to San Antonio again (Randolph AFB one weeks and Brooks AFB the next). Aside from the Texas Air Museum at Stinson Field, is there anything else worth looking at out there?
Does anyone need any photos of the static displays as Randolph or Lackland? Scott, do you need any shots for the registry of these aircraft? How about the XC-99 at Kelly?
Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:57 pm
Any pictures that you take would greatly be appriciated and credited on my website as well.
Thanks! Have fun!
Thanks! Have fun!
Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:32 pm
Paul Krumrei wrote:Any pictures that you take would greatly be appriciated and credited on my website as well.
Paul -
Happy to take shots of whatever you want -- there are a half dozen airplanes at Randolph (from memory, a T-33, T-6, T-34, T-37, T-38, and T-41) plus many at the Lackland parade grounds and 3 or 4 other spots all over the base.
There is an F-100 at Brooks, but the last time I was there (in August) it was sitting on a flatbed ready to be transported somewhere; <cell phone camera snapshot:>
There's also a couple airplanes at Stinson Field, including the Texas Air Museum's Focke Wulf:
There's also an F-4 and a F-101 at Stinson.
Anyone else know of anything I'm missing?
Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:24 am
Randy, if you have the time, go to Stinson Field. There used to be a Douglas DC-3 with a Mexican civilian registration.
If you enter the hangar, ask for John Lister. I do not know him, and spoke with him briefly several years ago.
He had then purchased the former Talmantz B-25 (the one with the nose modified for camera work) and had it there.
Inside his hangar, a veritable cache of airplanes and parts. He had a Howard DGA that he claims he found abandoned inside of what once had been a hangar in Mexico, but had become a residential subdivision.
No photos, though.
Other sites nearby:
The Von Ormy and Somerset airports have some L-birds based there.
The Hondo Airport has some of the USAF Slingby T-3s stored, and there are usually one or two other interesting aircraft in the airport.
If you can go to Uvalde, there is a hangar on the WEST side of the airport, as soon as you drive in, it will be on your LEFT. There were a T-28, a T-33, and a Cessna O-2 the last time I visited. Reportedly, there is a museum, but every time I drove to Uvalde, the museum was closed, and it looked like it had not been open for several years.
If you go West on I-10, Boerne Stage Field houses a CAF unit; so do by the way, San Marcos (North on I-35) and Burnet (North on 281); in this last location, there is a T-38, a T-37, an A-7 and a Hun.
The New Braunfels airport had a couple of Cessna O-2s.
The Georgetown airport had for a time, some helicopters that had seen service with the Guatemalan air force, and I managed to sneak a shot or two of them (Sikorsky S-76s).
If you can make the trip, Laredo International will be a good place to visit, and even if you only walk or drive around and outside, you will see a lot of airplanes with either Mexican registrations (T-39 Sabreliners) but still with USAF markings being removed or the aircraft being cannibalized for spares; there was a large four engined Douglas, a couple of C-45s, border patrol Super Cubs, a couple of C-47s, DC-3s, NAMC YS-11, Bell OH-13 / 47, T-28s.
The Mooney aircraft factory is located in Kerrville, and the tours begin promptly at 10:00 IIRC.
Hope all of this will at least give you some ideas as to where to go.
Saludos
Tulio
If you enter the hangar, ask for John Lister. I do not know him, and spoke with him briefly several years ago.
He had then purchased the former Talmantz B-25 (the one with the nose modified for camera work) and had it there.
Inside his hangar, a veritable cache of airplanes and parts. He had a Howard DGA that he claims he found abandoned inside of what once had been a hangar in Mexico, but had become a residential subdivision.
No photos, though.
Other sites nearby:
The Von Ormy and Somerset airports have some L-birds based there.
The Hondo Airport has some of the USAF Slingby T-3s stored, and there are usually one or two other interesting aircraft in the airport.
If you can go to Uvalde, there is a hangar on the WEST side of the airport, as soon as you drive in, it will be on your LEFT. There were a T-28, a T-33, and a Cessna O-2 the last time I visited. Reportedly, there is a museum, but every time I drove to Uvalde, the museum was closed, and it looked like it had not been open for several years.
If you go West on I-10, Boerne Stage Field houses a CAF unit; so do by the way, San Marcos (North on I-35) and Burnet (North on 281); in this last location, there is a T-38, a T-37, an A-7 and a Hun.
The New Braunfels airport had a couple of Cessna O-2s.
The Georgetown airport had for a time, some helicopters that had seen service with the Guatemalan air force, and I managed to sneak a shot or two of them (Sikorsky S-76s).
If you can make the trip, Laredo International will be a good place to visit, and even if you only walk or drive around and outside, you will see a lot of airplanes with either Mexican registrations (T-39 Sabreliners) but still with USAF markings being removed or the aircraft being cannibalized for spares; there was a large four engined Douglas, a couple of C-45s, border patrol Super Cubs, a couple of C-47s, DC-3s, NAMC YS-11, Bell OH-13 / 47, T-28s.
The Mooney aircraft factory is located in Kerrville, and the tours begin promptly at 10:00 IIRC.
Hope all of this will at least give you some ideas as to where to go.
Saludos
Tulio
Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:05 pm
Remember that the CAFs Centex Wing is down the road in San Marcos.
Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:57 pm
Tulio wrote:If you enter the hangar, ask for John Lister. I do not know him, and spoke with him briefly several years ago.
He had then purchased the former Talmantz B-25 (the one with the nose modified for camera work) and had it there.
Inside his hangar, a veritable cache of airplanes and parts. He had a Howard DGA that he claims he found abandoned inside of what once had been a hangar in Mexico, but had become a residential subdivision.
Lister and his son-in-law picked up their operation and moved it to Hondo. I think they were building their own hanger and runway. Quite an interesting operation and possibly a bit shady from two visits I had over there. When I was there they had the B-25, a Broussard (spelling?), and a Cub. The B-25 sold last year I believe somewhere north of here.
All kinds of parts that were in the hanger is definately a true statement.
One of the guys I talked to over there indicated that they knew of all kinds of stuff in Mexico but only got involved in those that they thought were most likely to profit their business. When I talked about B-25s one of them seemed to think that there were more B-25s down south that could be salvaged if one had the money.
As far as RAFB goes, I think that there's also a C-45 or something similar near where the T-43s are parked near the aviation fire department.
Cannon Field has some nice WW2 era liaison aircraft.
Ryan