Super Pinto

mtibbitts · **Joined:** Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:32 am **Posts:** 9

Got a chance to take our Museum's Super Pinto up this afternoon. Great fun. With the cold wx we lifted off under 500 feet. If you haven't seen one of the few of these fly, it is an experience to behold.

Haven't quite figured out how to put pix up on this site. I've got a few on our fb page: http://www.facebook.com/worldheritageairmuseum?fref=ts

Marty Tibbitts
World Heritage Air Museum

marine air · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:37 pm

Bet that was fun. Always wanted to fly on of those!
Last week in the Lear, we had a short hop, with no one on board. took off, runway heading, 3k. then given 180 degree reverse hdg on course, the airport passing under our left wing as we cleared 11,000'. THose "WOW" moments make up for the low points in aviation for me.

Fouga23 · **Posted:** Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:49 am

Nice collection of trainer jets! What's the serial of your Fouga?

mtibbitts · **Joined:** Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:32 am **Posts:** 9

Marine Air, that sounds like a fun flight!

Our Fouga is #450 a mk6 Fouga that has been stuck in stuck in Lago Vista TX for quite some time. Restoration is almost complete, and we expect to be bringing it up to Detroit before the end of the year.

P51Mstg · **Joined:** Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:36 am **Posts:** 1202

Saw your Pinto at OSH........ Nice airplane.... Only real problem I've thought was they were always a bit too "custom" (as Mike Dillon used to say ... Need parts, I have a machine shop)...

Saw Dillon wring it out at OSH one year (20+? years ago??) AMAZING take offs........

Of course the other side is Ashley Ezell in Lou Shaw's and he flies it very professionally.

Mark H

Fouga23 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:40 am

mtibbitts wrote:

Marine Air, that sounds like a fun flight!

Our Fouga is #450 a mk6 Fouga that has been stuck in stuck in Lago Vista TX for quite some time. Restoration is almost complete, and we expect to be bringing it up to Detroit before the end of the year.

Thanks! So it's a 1966 built Fouga CM.170-2 with marboré VI engines. Nice!

I looked at your site, and there are several errors though.
http://worldheritageairmuseum.org/?page_id=224

*there is no "MK6" Fouga. It's an CM.170-2 with Marboré VI (6) engines.
* There is no such thing as a "CM-170-3 Super Magister". The Irish also flew the -2. The Super Magister was the CM.173/ Potez 94. only a single prototype was ever built. There is no -3 variant.
* Israeli name was Tzukit, not Snunit

gary1954 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:23 pm

Fouga23 wrote:

mtibbitts wrote:

Marine Air, that sounds like a fun flight!

Our Fouga is #450 a mk6 Fouga that has been stuck in stuck in Lago Vista TX for quite some time. Restoration is almost complete, and we expect to be bringing it up to Detroit before the end of the year.

Thanks! So it's a 1966 built Fouga CM.170-2 with marboré VI engines. Nice!

I looked at your site, and there are several errors though.
http://worldheritageairmuseum.org/?page_id=224

*there is no "MK6" Fouga. It's an CM.170-2 with Marboré VI (6) engines.
* There is no such thing as a "CM-170-3 Super Magister". The Irish also flew the -2. The Super Magister was the CM.173/ Potez 94. only a single prototype was ever built. There is no -3 variant.
* Israeli name was Tzukit, not Snunit

go Fouga23 you just go gurl :drinkers:

Fouga23 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:21 pm

gary1954 wrote:

go Fouga23 you just go gurl :drinkers:

I even know where I can stash my handbag in a Fouga :twisted:

Fouga23 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:41 am

by the way, if you are looking for a cheap spares aircraft, there's one on Ebay now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fouga-CM ... 183c#v4-41

mtibbitts · **Joined:** Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:32 am **Posts:** 9

@Fouga23 -- Thanks, that's what I get for a cut and paste job : ). You are of course correct. While there was never a Super Fouga, we tend to use it in the vernacular to denote the big(ger) engined Fouga. Similarly the C Model HA200 is the Super Saeta. Sometimes we might even say "Super Casa" -- a habit we are trying to break!

@P51Mstg -- You are right, it is hard to find parts for the Pinto. Luckily we haven't yet had to make anything. Dillon just gave his Pinto to the Naval History Museum (we hear), and we plan on begging for parts as they convert it to static. It's nice to see the Pinto get its due in the Museum, but it is always sad to see a flyer made static on purpose.

mtibbitts · **Joined:** Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:32 am **Posts:** 9

@Fouga23 -- darn, that ebay Fouga is pretty ratty! Even worse than the 2 in permanent tie down at Chino. Sadly there are lots of parts Fougas to be had, and without engines I'd have to think twice even at that low price, given that it is in CA and I am in MI.

Rick65 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:47 am

I didn't understand the excitement about flying in a Super Pinto until I read this link
http://www.airbum.com/pireps/PirepTemcoPinto.html

mtibbitts · **Joined:** Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:32 am **Posts:** 9

That was the article that got me interested in the Pinto in the first place! Even cooler, the Pinto in the article is the same one now owned by our Museum. She is a rush to fly!

airnutz · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:44 pm

mtibbitts wrote:

That was the article that got me interested in the Pinto in the first place! Even cooler, the Pinto in the article is the same one now owned by our Museum. She is a rush to fly!

I always liked the Pinto and the Super was just so much cooler by all accounts.

I've still got an unbuilt balsa Berkley Pinto for Jetex power I picked up as a kid.

JohnB · **Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:49 pm

Marty

Is your Pinto the one the Ezells worked on several years ago?

And when was it converted to "Super" Pinto ...(with the GE engine as I recall)?

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