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shrike · **Posted:** Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:33 pm

Dave Hadfield wrote:

The crates are full of water? If that's the case, then it's hard to imagine any of the metal being useable.

I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but a crate full of corroded metal leaves the digger with basically just history, a few salvageable parts, and a data plate.

Plus an opportunity to spend $2m to build an aircraft.

I sincerely hope some of the crates have stayed dry.

Dave

OTOH, the Great Lakes are full of water too.
Fewer zebra mussels in the crate too I'd wager.

Dave Hadfield · **Joined:** Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:31 pm **Posts:** 1672

Yes, but as I understand it, in the Lakes as well the metal is unuseable unless the depth of water, or thickness of mud, have created an anaerobic condition.

I doubt that is the case in the crates.

Dave

cooper9411 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:22 pm

Dave Hadfield wrote:

Yes, but as I understand it, in the Lakes as well the metal is unuseable unless the depth of water, or thickness of mud, have created an anaerobic condition.

I doubt that is the case in the crates.

Dave

The metal is very unusable, at the most if very careful it could be used as a template depending on the depth where it came to rest and how bad the zebra mussles attacked it! :shock:

Wildchild · **Posted:** Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:27 pm

If its full of mud, it will be fine.

There's a B-17 stuck in the mud here in florida (not in a crate

) that was almost recovered in the 80's but the suction of the mud was too great. They send a camera down to the plane and it's still how it was when it crashed there.

wingman1 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:32 pm

Wildchild wrote:

If its full of mud, it will be fine.

There's a B-17 stuck in the mud here in florida (not in a crate

) that was almost recovered in the 80's but the suction of the mud was too great. They send a camera down to the plane and it's still how it was when it crashed there.

THAT is something i would like to know more about. :drink3:

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:16 am

double ditto on the muddy b -17 teaser!!

N3Njeff · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:40 am

Wildchild wrote:

If its full of mud, it will be fine.

There's a B-17 stuck in the mud here in florida (not in a crate

) that was almost recovered in the 80's but the suction of the mud was too great. They send a camera down to the plane and it's still how it was when it crashed there.

Lake Okeechobee B-17?

cooper9411 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:06 am

N3Njeff wrote:

Wildchild wrote:

If its full of mud, it will be fine.

There's a B-17 stuck in the mud here in florida (not in a crate

) that was almost recovered in the 80's but the suction of the mud was too great. They send a camera down to the plane and it's still how it was when it crashed there.

Lake Okeechobee B-17?

O.K. Lets get a crew together and head out for Lake Okeechobee. How soon can you be ready? :lol:

In and around many lakes in Florida there are aircraft scattered about. :shock:

wingman1 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:11 am

cooper9411 wrote:

N3Njeff wrote:

Wildchild wrote:

If its full of mud, it will be fine.

There's a B-17 stuck in the mud here in florida (not in a crate

) that was almost recovered in the 80's but the suction of the mud was too great. They send a camera down to the plane and it's still how it was when it crashed there.

Lake Okeechobee B-17?

O.K. Lets get a crew together and head out for Lake Okeechobee. How soon can you be ready? :drink3:

i got the beer! :drink3:

HawkerTempestMKII · **Joined:** Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:01 am **Posts:** 54

Dave Hadfield wrote:

Quote:

Yes, but as I understand it, in the Lakes as well the metal is unuseable unless the depth of water, or thickness of mud, have created an anaerobic condition.

I doubt that is the case in the crates.

That's a generalization. The water can be oxygenated, but that oxygen will be used with the sacrificial anode. Depending also upon how long it takes for the sacrificial anode to be sacrificed. If it's anerobic all the better though.

RickH · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:46 am

Quote:

i got the beer

!

I got the rifle to keep the gators off you guys in the water ! :shock:

Wildchild · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:27 pm

N3Njeff wrote:

Wildchild wrote:

If its full of mud, it will be fine.

There's a B-17 stuck in the mud here in florida (not in a crate

) that was almost recovered in the 80's but the suction of the mud was too great. They send a camera down to the plane and it's still how it was when it crashed there.

Lake Okeechobee B-17?

No... The one I was talking about is in Sebring.... Which one are you talking about?? lol

Can someone send me a PM with all the serial numbers of the B-17's that crashed around Sebring? Along with how they crashed? If so I think I can narrow down which 17 i'm thinking of.

Mudge · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:01 pm

And the headline on my homepage reads: "Famed WWII Jets Found Buried." AAARRRRGGGHHHH. Good ol' media.

Mudge the precise

cooper9411 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:41 pm

RickH wrote:

Quote:

i got the beer

!

I got the rifle to keep the gators off you guys in the water ! :shock:

Um, I'm driving there so I'm not going in the water! The rest of you will have to draw straws to see who is going in the water. I'll be on the boat holding the rifle while making sure the cooler doesn't get away. :lol:

RickH · **Posted:** Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:57 pm

No offense, but I'll hold my own rifle, thank you !

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