Warbird Information Exchange

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"I knew the jig was up when I saw the P-51D-20-NA Mustang blue-nosed bastards from Bodney, and by the way the blue was more of a royal blue than an indigo and the inner landing gear interiors were NOT green, over Berlin."

I am amazed at the price.

They wanted $8k for one hour in the TA-4J.

Because their 262 is a "modern replica" it is using much less expensive parts from modern aircraft and as a result would presumably have a much lower liability and insurance premium. It also has a fully certificated manufacturer supporting it, a major difference from the other aircraft in the collection. I applaud them for giving this opprotunity to pilots out there.

I doubt they (or the FAA) would use the term "rented." Is this considered an "experience flight" or something else? Interesting that you can get a type rating, but seeing how few there are I'm not sure you would ever get to use it!

"It also has a fully certificated manufacturer supporting it"? Who might this be?

From the advertisement, it seems they class it as Unusual Attitude / Upset Training, and you need at least a Student Pilot certificate, or a full pilots license, to take part

http://www.collingsfoundation.org/ma_me262program.htm

It would be an expensive but really cool log book entry. There are worse things you can do with that kind of money.

~J~

At this time we do not have the ability to offer flight experiences like we do with the B-17 and B-24, but we do have permission from the FAA to offer flight training on the aircraft. That is why there is a license requirement. In the future we hope to get the historic aircraft exemption flight extended to the Me-262 which will drop the requirement for the license, but at the same time the person may lose the opportunity to manipulate the flight controls. It would be more of a ride along in the back seat, and not an instruction session. The same type of program is already offered on both the F-4 Phantom and the TA-4 Skyhawk.

Well it's pretty neat! I know you guys will do better if you're able to give rides, but the opportunity to get checked out in a 262 would seem like something to jump at, if you had the cash...

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"I knew the jig was up when I saw the P-51D-20-NA Mustang blue-nosed bastards from Bodney, and by the way the blue was more of a royal blue than an indigo and the inner landing gear interiors were NOT green, over Berlin."

Thanks kmiles. I guess this works the same way as those offering upset training in L-39s then. What a great experience this would be!

This is a dual track LODA program. You can do the full deal with multiple hours at a dry rate culminating in the authorization on your license or a one hour unusual attitude/upset training at a wet rate. The $4500.00 fee includes $2380.00 for fuel at current rates. The rest goes to support the jet.

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"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass..."
Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto

Classic Fighter Industries is the "Certificate Holder" of record for the reproductions and is certificated as a PMA according to the FAA, so they can manufacture and "yellow tag" parts for the airplane. Additionally, as the engines are certificated units (CJ-610's), and I believe the new landing gear units are modified from certificated units as well, meaning they have at least limited support of a PMA.

It is as long as the owner/operator of the L-39 has an approved program from their Flight Standards District Office (FAR 91.319(h)). You can not conduct flight training of any type in an experimental aircraft without it. The L-39 has a few extra levels of complexity over the Me-262. One is that they have ejection seats that have to be maintained with limited availability of parts that are time (not use) limited. There has been more than one L-39 operator get in trouble with the details.

I would go for the F-4 Phantom...

Just remember...the 262 is a WWII sized machine...a "broad shouldered" type like my self may have some issues with the triangular fuselage cross section...lol

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Zane Adams
There I was at 20,000 ft, upside down and out of ammunition.
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