BRAND NEW MESSERSCHMITT BF-109F IN ORIGINAL CRATE?

[Rob S]

Happy New Year Wixers, Anyone have info on this one advertised in Trade-A-Plane. Sounds pretty amazing. Thanks, Rob

[JimH]

Saw this ad today as well, somebody posted about this a week or so ago...nobody replied then either. Hope its true.

Jim

[airnutz]

Saw this ad today as well, somebody posted about this a week or so ago...nobody replied then either. Hope its true.

Jim

..Saw it too..What a titillating find! ....

[Originalboxcar]

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[B-29 Super Fort]

Anyone have a subscription?

Here's the ad for it -> http://www.trade-a-plane.com/protected/ ... &ad=738044

regards,

t~

I'd like to see the ad as well.

[stumac]

MESSERSCHMITT Bf-109F- Brand new! Incredible find: factory new Bf-109F in its original shipping crate. Never assembled, exactly as it was sent from Austria to the front in 1942. Expensive, but nothing like it in the world. Serious enquiries only, please. Box 1110, C/O Trade-A-Plane, P.O. Box 509, Crossville, TN 38557.

[Aircraft Mech Paul]

Hi all,

This would seem like one of "Finds of the Century" if true. And I am not saying it isn't. This reminds of the stories I heard of some farmer having a F6F Hellcat stored in a barn, complete and ready to go, back when I was much more involved in the Warbird movement back in the mid 1980's. Or even the one of a B-17, located "somewhere" in Pennsylvania that a land owner had discovered in a forest of dense trees.

I'd love to see this one be as true as the sun coming up, but if any of you have read any of the Clive Cussler novels about the adventures of Dirk Pitt, you may recall that in one of the books he found a cache of ME-262 fighters sitting on their gear in a cave in Europe. And that was a work of fiction.

Forgive me if I am the skeptic here...but as the old saying goes...if something sounds too good to be true.......................

I love the idea of all of the research that follows the topics here. Makes a lot more sense out of the things that come and go with respect to these aircraft.

Paul

[lmritger]

Just one problem with this... when aircraft were built at WNF, they were usually flown to their destination, not shipped in a box the way the Allies did. Luftwaffe personnel from the unit to which the aircraft was to be delivered would be detached to go to the factory or a nearby airfield to pick it up and fly it to the operational base.

If it was disassembled, it would usually be for transport BACK to the factory for damage repair/recycling into a different model.

Not sayin' it ain't true, but I'm waving the BS flag until we see some physical proof.

Lynn

EDIT: I found it! I found a picture of the 109F, new in it's crate! See below:

[Peter D Evans]

I'd normally agree with you on the flying of new airframes to the units Lynn, but my memory is drawn to two Bf109G's found crated by the Allies at Gilze-Rijen in the Netherlands at the beginning of 1945. They were both re-assembled and then allocated the RAF serials VD358 (Bf109G-14/U4) & VD364 (Bf109G-14/U4) before being shipped to the UK...

...I'f love it to be true and indeed if it were and Paul Allen was to find out about it, I am sure he'd snap it up...

[T J Johansen]

Just one problem with this... when aircraft were built at WNF, they were usually flown to their destination, not shipped in a box the way the Allies did. Luftwaffe personnel from the unit to which the aircraft was to be delivered would be detached to go to the factory or a nearby airfield to pick it up and fly it to the operational base.

If it was disassembled, it would usually be for transport BACK to the factory for damage repair/recycling into a different model.

Not sayin' it ain't true, but I'm waving the BS flag until we see some physical proof.

Lynn

EDIT: I found it! I found a picture of the 109F, new in it's crate! See below:

Holy smoke! Another one.....
I thought mine was the only one remaining today. So much for that "nothing like it in the world".... But at least it is brand new, never assembled, and in its original shipping crate!


T J

[Wolverine]

Or even the one of a B-17, located "somewhere" in Pennsylvania that a land owner had discovered in a forest of dense trees.

Actually, that sounds like someone got the state wrong. They found Desert Rat in a forest in Maine, did they not?

[TimAPNY]

It was in Maine but I'm pretty sure that it was a over grown part of a junk / scrap yard (if that really makes a difference )

[Wolverine]

Well, in the pics in the Warbirds Digest, it LOOKS like a forest...and that's what would be the misleading part. Especially if someone heard it from a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend. Of course reasonably, it could be a friend of a friend. Or an acquaintance of a friend. The possiblities are limitless. The point is, it sounds like a vague description of Desert Rat.

[gregv]

wow, the box art on the Airfix kit is absolutely horrible! What is up with the nose contours, and the size and thrust line of the spinner? It looks like one of those buchons that has been modified to more closely resemble a true '109.

I have been trying to think of why and how a "brand-new" aircaft manufactured in 1942 and sent from Austria to the front ended up staying "brand-new"; what, did it get sunk in a very cold fresh-water lake during transport, or did someone steal it for sale later on the black market and never get around to it?

I would dearly love this one to be true, but an NOS Me109F (in original box no less) I would have to see before believing it. Why wouldn't the seller just slap it on ebay with a generous reserve? Why would someone even try to sell something so potentially valuable without posting photos? Very interesting at any rate.

cheers

greg v

[Aircraft Mech Paul]

Well, in the pics in the Warbirds Digest, it LOOKS like a forest...and that's what would be the misleading part. Especially if someone heard it from a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend. Of course reasonably, it could be a friend of a friend. Or an acquaintance of a friend. The possiblities are limitless. The point is, it sounds like a vague description of Desert Rat.

MAN...you have my mind spinning about the friend of a friend thing...sheesh.

Not sure about Desert Rat being the one in question, though I admit in the similarity it's possible. I'm no expert by any stretch. But it occurs to me that I recall something about some wild eyed story I had heard back then about a B-17 that was, according to the story, cut up with a chainsaw. My mind is fuzzy about the details. And given the state of Desert Rat...maybe that is it...but then again...who knows wether or not...if I have learned anything about this life...I have learned that literally anything is possible.

Paul