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Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:45 am
I received a high profile aviation memorabilia catalog's xmas issue & was cruising through it as usual torturing myself by looking at everything I want but can't afford

.... & was baffled to see a 1/72 scale kit of the Grumman f8f bearcat in south Vietnam markings of the 1st fighter squadron south Vietnamese air force for sale!! I've never heard of bearcats operating in Vietnam!! I know some post ww2 aircraft did, skyraider, b-26 invader, among others, but never heard of a bearcat being used in combat. can anyone verify this with pics & combat operations history?? 1st I've heard of this!!
Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:35 am
What Mike said. Bearcats preceded Skyraiders and I don't recall if they were operated concurrently or if it was a pure transition of types.
Ken
Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:58 am
Sure they did (as did Thailand).
Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:21 am

Grumman F8F-1 VNAF Saigon c 1960's

Grumman F8F Bearcat VNAF 1966-68
Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:58 pm
were they used in ground attack?? i can't imagine a bearcat duking it out with a north vietnamese russian supplied mig 17 or 19!!
Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:18 pm
With a very skilled pilot I think a bearcat could hold its own against a mig 17. The bearcat could out turn the mig and the mig 17 didnt have missiles. My dad flew in Vietnam and has told me stories about skyradiers shooting down migs and sky radiers werent designed to be fighters whereas the bearcat was.
Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:49 pm
IIRC, in Korea a sea Fury took out a MiG-15. I'd think if a Skyraider could do it, a Bearcat would really have a chance.
Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:27 pm
famvburg wrote:IIRC, in Korea a sea Fury took out a MiG-15. I'd think if a Skyraider could do it, a Bearcat would really have a chance.
And a Corsair!
Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:44 pm
The Bearcats were left behind by the French. Nguyen Cao Ky who was the head of the South Vietnam Air Force had been a Bearcat pilot. Before the Bearcats the French had used Bell P-63s and Supermarine Spitfires.
Navy Skyraiders downed two Mig 17s on separate occasions. I think in one instance it was one on one and in the other two ADs teamed up to get the Mig.
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