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Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:55 pm
I'm confused.
I was at the Tillamook blimp hanger a couple of weeks ago and the plane there was "Tangerine". Looks nothing like the plane pictured.
Sorry, couple of beers into the evening, but....
I thought Evergreen owned all of the planes there.
Is the McMinnville operation different from the Tillamook one?
Are there two P-38's in Oregon?
Sorry, I need to google more, or just pull my head out, but if a WIX bro could set me straight now, I can beer, and not computer.
Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:22 am
Different operation.... Two different airplanes.... You were right...
Mark H
Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:15 am
Evergreen's bird in Oregon:

At Chino, 1988:

More pics/summaries of it plus 14 other preserved P-38s:
http://aircraft-in-focus.com/lockheed-p-38-lightning/August
Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:01 pm
I got it now. I should have known.
Tillamook=Erikson
McMinnville=Evergreen
Gotta go to McMinnville this weekend.
Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:53 pm
I know they got their hands full, BUT, it would be great if the "Liberty Belle " (B-17) people got the P-38!!

!! just saying!! Collings...? maybe ?? O.K I could go on...better stop here. Good luck who ever gets her!
Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:39 pm
I would LOVE to see the old ex-Salvadoran/Pardue FG-1D Corsair finally come out of hibernation.
Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:18 pm
I can't help but wonder if we won't start to see the valuable potential flyers sold off to support the infrastructure now that it appears their major benefactor is going away. This happened a bit at the Air Zoo with the sale of the Bearcat and F7F and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if more of their potential flyers are sold off as it becomes more of an aviation theme attraction than a museum. The sale of these type of airplanes goes a long way to supporting the operation or capital campaign. I have never been to Evergreen but I imagine that most visitors probably wouldn't notice if a few of the aircraft that could be sold as warbirds disappeared.
Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:21 pm
I bet Kermit is salivating over the possibility of getting the Goose

alas…I doubt they would EVER let that go
Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:40 am
Perfect timing! I just finished the book "Aces High" by Bill Yenne...the story of the "competition" between Bong and Maguire. Forgive my ignorance, but are any of the P-38s currently painted to represent Pudgy V or the Lightning that Bong scored his 40th kill in? Has there been any serious effort to try and find he remains of Pudgy V? I understand that Maguire's body was recovered and buried at Arlington...was curious if what was left of Pudgy had been found and possibly retrieved? Does anyone know if there is an ongoing effort in New Guinea to retrieve any of the hundreds of aircraft that were shot down on both sides? I understand that the terrain there is not conducive to any retrievals being easy. Or is the New Guinea government even open to the idea of letting people find and retrieve the remains of what is there?
Sorry for so many questions...maybe should have started a different thread. The "Aces High" storyline would seem to make for a great movie...and with so many flying Lightnings around, having some real aircraft in the movie would be even better.
Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:06 am
I think there is a real P-38 painted as Pudgy on a stick on McGuire AFB, NJ. Is there a Marge at USAFM?
Chappie
Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:56 am
Chappie wrote:I think there is a real P-38 painted as Pudgy on a stick on McGuire AFB, NJ. Is there a Marge at USAFM?
Chappie
There is a Marge in Oshkosh, and i didn't see it while i was there but i was told of another in northern Wisconsin, possibly in Superior.
Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:38 am
bomberfan wrote:Chappie wrote:I think there is a real P-38 painted as Pudgy on a stick on McGuire AFB, NJ. Is there a Marge at USAFM?
Chappie
There is a Marge in Oshkosh, and i didn't see it while i was there but i was told of another in northern Wisconsin, possibly in Superior.
I think this is what you heard about...
http://www.bvhcenter.org/
Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:46 am
The P-38 at NMUSAF is painted to resemble one flown by Royal Frey, a former Curator.
Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:56 am
There are at least two P-38s painted as "Marge."
One at the EAA Museum in Oshkosh.
The other at the Richard I. Bong Veterans Historical Center in Superior, WI.
Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:13 am
Hmm.. Hit the Lottery, Buy the P-38 , Paint it up as YIPPEE, do the airshow circuit for a few summers...
Or Kickstarter anyone?
Milo Burcham ready to fly YIPPEE,5000th P-38 built by
torinodave72, on Flickr
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