AT-10 Wichita Twin Engine Trainers?

hercules130 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:12 am

JBoyle wrote:

Obergrafeter wrote:

Another fuselage is in a BBQ joint in West Texas, and I think that is all that are ought there.

I found and photographed that aircraft about 10 years ago behind an abandoned auto repair garage in Abilene, Texas.
It was similar to what the NMUSAF started out with, justthe metal cabin.
I was told by "old timers" that some were bought by local ranchers who used to tow them behind tractors letting their kids play pilot.

It then appeared at the aviation momento-filled Harlow's BBQ, also in Abilene. It was there when I left Abilene in late 2004. In the 4 years since I was last there, it appears (from an internet search of the resturant's location) that the resturant has moved, I don't know if it took the airframe with them.

I would think...but don't know...that the local CAF Squadron would be able to tee you of its current status.

WOW! Spent just over five years in Abilene (well about 13 months actually in Abilene!). Never went to Harlow's and never saw the AT-10. Thanks for the post.

peter · **Posted:** Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:21 am

I hope these work. Pictures of the AT 10 panel. Note the original condition and the Army airfield placard.

I cant load the pictures here they show up in preview but not after I post??
Here is a link

http://rides.webshots.com/album/571216493kFxJjN?vhost=rides

octane130 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:13 pm

My Dad trained in the AT-10 at Pampa Army Air Field, Texas in mid- to late 1945, along with the Curtiss AT-9 "Jeep" and the B-25. The war ended before he completed training though. The AT-10 is more obscure today than even the AT-9, despite the thousands of guys that trained in it. My Dad had favorable opinions of the AT-10 and simply adored the B-25, but the AT-9 was considered an evil little machine by the cadets in terms of handling qualities.

My Dad said the AT-10 was even noisier in the cockpit than the B-25; it was like you were inside a drum or an ash can with someone beating on the outside with a baseball bat. Another story was that a whole lot of these aircraft were once pummeled with golfball-size hail at Pampa while he was there and the fabric, aluminum and Plexiglass surfaces were literally destroyed, rendering the aircraft that were caught out in the open (which was probably most of them) unflyable.

Thanks to everybody for the photos and links!

Lynn Allen · **Posted:** Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:14 am

steve dickey wrote:

Here is the one in Abilene @ Harlows, the establishment is still in its original location. These were taken in Oct 07 so I presume its still there(more than likely) The very next time I head to the "big city" I'll stop and get an updated photo of it.
Wayne these should be part of the same ones I e-mailed to Lynn to fwd them to you back then. If he didn't we'll just wring his neck :twisted:

Hmm never saw that email but try again when you go there next time..

Lynn "The Neck"

Obergrafeter · **Posted:** Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:53 pm

Yes Steve I did get the pics and would like to have that to add to my collection.

hercules130 · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 5:08 pm

According to a friend who just PCSed to my neck of the woods two days ago Harlow's has changed the decor and none of the aviation memorabilia is still around. He has no clue to its whereabouts.

cadet77 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:59 pm

Some firewalls and tailwheel trunnions at a local scrap yard.

No AT-10 but other forgotten airplane bits?

cadet77

BuzzBy · **Posted:** Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:02 pm

The dish pans and tailwheel trunnions appear to be from Beech 18s.
Obviously older stuff as the pans are for single long stack exhaust, and the gear looks like the short tail wheel style.

Of course AT-10s probably used similar looking parts.
Any idea who from or where they originated?

Thanks,
John

Steve Nelson · **Posted:** Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:13 pm

Here's a closeup of the tailwheel on the NMUSAF AT-10 for comparison.

SN

Taigh Ramey · **Posted:** Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:10 am

Definitely Beech 18 parts. C ANC D dish pans and the tail wheel trusses/forks are C model or WWII. They would fit your AT-11 John.

I would like to see what else is in that yard.

Project Warbird · **Posted:** Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:25 pm

Cadet77,
I would love to go through that scrap yard. Where is it located?

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

cadet77 wrote:

T-6 main gear legs

Chris Brame · **Posted:** Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:03 pm

Back to the AT-10 subject - don't forget this one that slipped through the cracks at Planes of Fame:

Any POF old-timers care to chime in on what happened here?

Warbirdnerd · **Joined:** Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:34 pm **Posts:** 2923

Is this an aircraft fuselage? T-37 maybe?

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