Warbird Information Exchange

Guys, I'm sorry, but you're being way harsh in your responses.

1) This is not a polished product nor is it supposed to be.
2) This is not reflective of the final product in any way.

Guys, if you don't understand what a CONCEPT REEL is, then don't comment on it. Otherwise, here's a little information -

A concept reel is simply a short film that is used to give the filmmakers an idea of how a studio proposes to shoot a screenplay or script they've been offered. It is never "polished", it is simply used to give an idea of the camera shots intended, some of the set-types, basic CGI/Animation concepts in style and where they'd be used within the film. These reels are basically a moving storyboard.

All this reel tells us is the following -

1) They intend to use CGI to show the externals
2) They intend to use physical sets/fuselages to film the interiors
3) They intend the shots to be "gritty" in nature using unstabilized camera shots and (possibly) hard cuts between them.
4) The story is going to be about a cameraman flying along with a crew of a B-17 on a mission over Europe

That's it. There is nothing more to be taken from the concept reel. To be bashing the guys who did this because their concept reel doesn't look like a finished product is just flat insulting.

+1. And I'd like to add one word: Spielberg. I'll reserve judgment for when an actual trailer exists. If it's anywhere near as good as Saving Private Ryan, it will be an incredible movie.

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Matt

Yep! C-fly has it right, it's your typical concept reel. Some of them actually are better than the movie or series made from it.

http://vimeo.com/63782090

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Zero Surprise!!...

I understand the concept reel but I don't understand why they would release it to the public where they must surely have known it would go viral and they'd get slammed for it. That won't do their cause to get studio backing much good, surely?

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Just to clarify again, this is NOT the upcoming Spielberg/Hanks miniseries, but a completely different project. To be honest, if they put some oxygen masks on the crew and tone down some of the more "comic book" aspects of the CGI then this one could have some potential.

SN

Steve, again, why are you critiquing this concept reel with such detail? If you understand that it's not the Spielberg mini-series and that it's a concept reel, why do you insist on foisting fidelity on it?

As to why this concept reel was released - it may not have been. The only articles I've found on it are the one linked to from IMDB and another one on a Blog. Neither reference how they obtained the footage, only that it was "exclusive". Then "HotMovieTrailers" uploaded it and failed to note that it was a concept reel nor where they got it from, which only caused more problems.

BTW, I'm not 100% sure it was actually "released". I think someone who was too hot to get an "exclusive" or "hot release" took a bit of footage that was given for a specific publication (i.e. shown as a concept reel to those who might give funding or distribution to the project) and put it out as something it wasn't. They didn't expect the general public to see it and they didn't expect for the general public to need to know what a concept reel is and how it's not intended to look anything like the finished product besides the general concept.

BTW, the guys who made it, Hydraulx, is a Special Effects super-house and have been involved in doing special effects for a good number of the blockbusters released in the last decade starting with Terminator 3. If you saw Skyline, which they produced and did most of the VFX on, it was visually spectacular, even if the plot wasn't.

All the above quite correct again ....

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Zero Surprise!!...

I think any reasonable person could say that even if if was a concept trailer they did a reasonable good job. The reality is that the farther history is in the rear view mirror the less people will see it as important. The context of a movie about the "Eighth" is important. The more exposure people have to the sacrifices made in the past, the more they could appreciate those sacrifices. Yes, films are made to make money, but just be glad it is about a subject we all care about--at least of few of us. Face it, CGI is here to stay. If they crashed a real B-17 filming this movie everyone would be giving them grief about that too. Let's hope the dialogue is good and close to historical. I can live with CGI. Or I can live in someone's else dream as long as the dialogue isn't a nightmare.

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Err...it wasn't exactly a detailed critique or "foisted fidelity", just an opinion based on my overall impression. If this is nothing more than a concept reel, then the final product will likely bear little resemblance anyway. My initial response was based on the (mistaken) belief that this was an actual trailer for a finished film.

SN

Memphis belle was not that bad at all. Actually, I find it to be one of my favorite movies. Of course we all know the real story. Things that happened in the movie did actually happen,( just not within 2 hours nor to such a degree.)

But look at the positives,

They used REAL b-17s
They used them in the correct location
They were able to show a new generation what b-17s actually are.

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