I need Racer help......

mark126804 · **Joined:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:42 am **Posts:** 6

Hi All, Im hoping somebody can help. Im working on some Reno Racer models with two seat, (Racer 44 (Spanky) Jelly Belly)(Race 11 (Miss America)) . Just to name a few. I need help with some pics of the back area (the second seat). Could somebody help me with this Please..

Thanks in advance.

Mark

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Generally an aircraft seat (like a Warren McArthur with all the unneeded height adjustment mechanism removed) is just fastened to the flat shelf behind the pilot that formerly supported the bottom of the fuselage fuel tank. The pilot's seat is then modified at the upper supports so that it can be tilted forward for the passenger to get in and out. Usually quick release pins on lanyards are used at the upper support.

http://www.lanceaircraftsupply.com/seat ... -pg44.html

You might want to revise your topic name to "P-51D passenger seat details" or something similar.

51fixer · **Posted:** Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:42 am

Some of the web sites where warbirds are sold will feature interior photos.
Courtesyaircraft.com, trade a plane and controller come to mine.
Otherwise I bet their is something out there on google.

mark126804 · **Joined:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:42 am **Posts:** 6

Awesome thank you. Would this be the same type as the one in the 60's and 70's.

Thanks
Mark

mark126804 · **Joined:** Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:42 am **Posts:** 6

51fixer wrote:

Some of the web sites where warbirds are sold will feature interior photos.
Courtesyaircraft.com, trade a plane and controller come to mine.
Otherwise I bet their is something out there on google.

51fixer - Ive googled the a/c Im working on and not finding any photos. Ive looked for ones from the 60's / 70's. I just dont see anything of any help. Thanks for the response.

Mark

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Some of the Mustangs with a tarted up interior look a little nicer than others, but the underpinnings are generally the same- though I did do one without the lower seat pan and just fastened the back of the seat to the floor. This allowed for a small baggage area behind the rear seat when you hinged the back forward.

airtj · **Posted:** Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:11 pm

I would also post over at aafo.com; the site is all about the Reno Air Races. Someone over their can guide you in the right direction.

wendellb36 · **Joined:** Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:36 pm **Posts:** 1

The mustangs you mention have rear seats added only lady jo is a real two seater .You can find pics on mustangs mustangs.com and each racer has a website with pics as well.the reno air race association site has pic too .by the way the jelly belly p51 is named sparky

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetai ... 294539.htm

Note that this aircraft has been modified with a stick in the rear seat, but it is not a TF-51. The front seat would likely need to be narrowed to accomodate rudder pedals with a setup like this.

From a UK CAA report:

Quote:

The pilots seat mounting had been modified in previous civilian ownership to
facilitate the tilting of the seat pan to allow the egress of the rear seat
passenger. The design of the mounting has not been substantiated by a
prior design report, stress analysis or modification, therefore the structure
has been removed from the aircraft. The pilots seat (Schick Johnson 95-
100) mounting has been returned to the original manufacturers configuration
in accordance with NAA drawing numbers 106-31671-1 (seat support) and
106-31429 (seat support beam). All work is recorded in work pack reference
number xxxxxxxxx.
The aircraft had been fitted with a rear passenger seat positioned behind the
pilots seat in the cockpit compartment on the rear fuselage fuel tank floor.
The seat and harness installation has not been substantiated by a prior
design report, stress analysis or modification and has therefore been
removed from the aircraft. All work is recorded in work pack reference
number xxxxxxxxx.

51fixer · **Posted:** Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:53 pm

The owner back then wrote a book-
http://www.missa-racing.com/history.html
http://www.amazon.com/Galloping-Wings-M ... 1889776017

over/out · **Posted:** Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:59 pm

Hey Mark, this may /may not help, but the next time you go to an IPMS show,look for venders selling old Air Classics, Warbird Int., or old Warbidrs Worldwide mags. I've seen pic.s of early restored P-51s etc. in them with an extra back seat. Good luck, keep modeling, Anthony

rc38pilot · **Posted:** Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:01 pm

I can try to help a little, Jelly Belly race 44 is actually called Sparky ..... I forwarded this to Steve and Brant Seghetti who own sparky to see if the can help point you in the right direction ...... you can also try MustangsMustangs.com. yes spelled twice

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