Evergreen Collection is in the news again

Pat Carry · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:47 pm

How long since this P-38 was a flyer?

DH82EH · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:51 pm

Last flown in the early 1990's when owned by Doug Arnold in the U.K.

This is a good chance for the airworthy Lightning population to increase.
It looks like all this machine will need is a good once over.

Andy

C VEICH · **Joined:** Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:40 pm **Posts:** 1471

Pat Carry wrote:

How long since this P-38 was a flyer?

Pretty sure it was flown from Marana to Oregon after restoration by Evergreen. I don't remember exactly when that was, early 2000's I guess, but certainly some time beyond Doug Arnold's ownership.

51fixer · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:25 pm

C VEICH wrote:

Pat Carry wrote:

How long since this P-38 was a flyer?

Pretty sure it was flown from Marana to Oregon after restoration by Evergreen. I don't remember exactly when that was, early 2000's I guess, but certainly some time beyond Doug Arnold's ownership.

Evergreen didn't finish the restoration.
It was finished in Colorado and flown to Oregon. IIRC it was flown by Gary Levitz.
I'm unsure how much, if at all, Evergreen flew it after purchase from DA before the restoration began.

DH82EH · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:59 pm

Platinums website says "1 hour SMOH" for the left and right engines. How long is the flight from Colorado to Oregon?
Maybe these figures add up? Any thoughts?

Although curiously it lists the props as 0 SMOH.

Where's the little emoticon for the puzzled guy scratching his head? Hmmmm.................

Airframe is listed as 37 hours SMOH.

Andy

RobC · **Posted:** Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:41 pm

I know sales people are prone to hyperbole, but this is beyond the pale. "Is considered the finest P-38 resoration to date." When you say this, you diss the other owners and restorers.

If this airplane were lined up with Glacier Girl and Ruff Stuff, and a team of Oshkosh Warbird judges told to go for it, how many people think it would come out on top?

Warbirdnerd · **Joined:** Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:34 pm **Posts:** 2923

The Tri Motor has been sold according to Courtesy's Website.
Anyone know where it is headed?

Mike · **Joined:** Tue May 04, 2004 8:54 am **Posts:** 3331

Ohio, I think

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:05 pm

The Tri Motor was going to the Liberty Air Museum.
The P-38 has ferry time only. The 1 hours was PDX to Mac
by Alan Z. I don't know why it says 37 hours or why they don't match.
Since it hasen't flown in 11+ years I doubt it could match any flying
P-38 in condition. Ever see Jack Croul's?

kalamazookid · **Posted:** Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:27 pm

Good news on the Trimotor! That's not too far from me. It will be great to have another Ford in the air. I wonder how this impacts the Trimotor the Tin Goose Chapter of EAA is restoring in Port Clinton? I believe Liberty is allowing them hangar space for the Tin Goose Chapter to work on their Ford. Perhaps Liberty can lend them parts to use as patterns to fabricate new ones. Could be a win-win with helping get another Trimotor airworthy.

Thanks for keeping us updated Jack!

Steve Nelson · **Posted:** Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:20 am

This is awesome news! My wife and I took a hop in the Air Zoo Ford last fall when it was in Port Clinton. We also checked out the Libery Air Museum and had lunch at the Tin Goose Diner..dfinitely a beautiful facility. The Ford they have under restoration is very much a "project" aircraft..I doubt much (if any) of the original structure will be useable. For a small volunteer outfit, it will likely take years if not decades to finish. I hope the acquisition of the Evergreen Ford doesn't kill the project.

As for the (now former) Evergreen Tin Goose, I wonder if her new owners will repaint her in the old red, white & blue Island Airlines livery. I hope they offer a ride program..I got my first airplane ride in the old Island Airlines (now Weeks) Ford, and have flown in the EAA's and Air Zoo's..I'd love to add a fourth to the list...

SN

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:51 am

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I wonder if her new owners will repaint her in the old red, white & blue Island Airlines livery

If they do anything besides replacing the EVG logo and City of Mac name with the original Transcontinental Air Transport (TAT) from 1929 it would be a travisty. Named the "City of Wichita," this airplane was used on the first transcontinental passenger service which has flown between San Diego and New York. Being a museum I hope they honor her history!!

myteaquinn · **Joined:** Tue May 24, 2011 6:46 pm **Posts:** 112

How sure is the Tri-Motor going to Port Clinton? I haven't seen anything in the news and it's not on their facebook page.

Steve Nelson · **Posted:** Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:20 pm

Jack Cook wrote:

If they do anything besides replacing the EVG logo and City of Mac name with the original Transcontinental Air Transport (TAT) from 1929 it would be a travisty. Named the "City of Wichita," this airplane was used on the first transcontinental passenger service which has flown between San Diego and New York. Being a museum I hope they honor her history!!

You're right of course, Jack. I let my personal nostalgia get the better of me for a minute there. Didn't she carry the TAT livery when owned by Harrah's? While I'm thinking about it, is this the same Tin Goose that had brief cameos in "The Rocketeer" and "The Untouchables?" (assuming it was the same aircraft in both films.)

SN

ChrisK48 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:40 pm **Posts:** 131

There's a Bill Larkins photo of the Trimotor taken at its dedication in Reno in 1970 here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34076827@N00/5123792422/

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