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U.S. Hawker Furies- HELP needed!

Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:06 pm

All

Putting together the US section of the Sea Fury / Fury Survivors and would like to know if any one has updates and/or photos of the following aircraft. Please PM me if you can help.
(Rob still keen to see that Tallichet stuff)

TIA
Dave


FB Mk.11 WJ298 N26SF
John J. Dowd, Syracuse KS 28.1.88/02
(rest. Breckenridge TX 91/93)



Fury FB.10 N35SF
Vernon C. McCallister, Del Norte CO .94/02
(under rest. to fly Centennial CO)



Fury FB.10 N45SF Glen Ellen CA
(rest. to fly, Petaluma CA 89)



41H/ Fury FB.10
Amjet Aircraft Corp, Anoka County MN .94/01
(stored Anoka County 01, on landing gear
unrest., original Iraqi AF camouflage scheme)

WJ293

Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:31 am

I hope to have an updated picture of WJ293 in about a week.

Re: U.S. Hawker Furies- HELP needed!

Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:07 am

DaveM2 wrote:All

Putting together the US section of the Sea Fury / Fury Survivors and would like to know if any one has updates and/or photos of the following aircraft.
41H/ Fury FB.10
Amjet Aircraft Corp, Anoka County MN .94/01
(stored Anoka County 01, on landing gear
unrest., original Iraqi AF camouflage scheme)


Not the greatest shot, but you are welcome to it...
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Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:48 am

Dave:

Not one of those on your list:

I shot this photo at Ellington Field, Houston, TX October 1990:

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Saludos,


Tulio

Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:06 pm

Just for clarification, and maybe a bit nit-picking, there were only four actual Hawker Furies built. They were all prototypes, and flew with various engines mounted. None of these survive, as far as I know, and the contract with Hawker to build Furies for the RAF was cancelled. The aircraft that survive today are in actuality Sea Furies, and although some have been de-navalized, still remain Sea Furies.

Walt

Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:02 pm

RareBear wrote:Just for clarification, and maybe a bit nit-picking, there were only four actual Hawker Furies built. They were all prototypes, and flew with various engines mounted. None of these survive, as far as I know, and the contract with Hawker to build Furies for the RAF was cancelled. The aircraft that survive today are in actuality Sea Furies, and although some have been de-navalized, still remain Sea Furies.

Walt

I'd disagree there, Walt. Certainly the initial batch for Iraq (30, plus 4 2-seaters) were built as 'Furies', with no 'Sea' about them. They were known as Fury ISS (Iraqi Single Seat) or IDT (Iraqi Dual Trainer) in Hawker company parlance, or unofficially as Bagdad Furies' (again, no 'Sea').

I believe that the same went for the initial new-build batches for Egypt and Pakistan.

Later export deliveries were of refurbished, de-navalised ex-RN Sea Furies (which you could argue either way) or new-built as Sea Furies for Naval use (certainly 'Sea' Furies).

However, there certainly were new-build 'Furies' for Iraq, and, I'd say, Eqypt and Pakistan (which each took delivery of one of the refurbished prototype 'Furies' as well as new-build examples)

Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:10 pm

How recent is that shot of the Amjet Fury? I don't recall ever seeing it when the museum was open, and I certainly haven't seen it from the ramp the few times I've happened by when the doors were open in recent years.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:04 am

Guys

Thanks for your efforts so far.
Walt, as Mike says there were several batches of Furies that were never navalised, and not given the 'Sea' title, initially for Iraq.
Rob thanks for the list, I have several documents on the sales and identities when they were purchased. What I really would like to know is which aircraft he still retains and if possible any photos of the said aircraft
( I have the Warbirds Directory, although it is a few years old now).

Dave

Furies

Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:25 am

I'm guessing that at least two or three never left the country.


And of those 2 or 3, remember Randy Haskin related to us his witnessing
smart-bomb film of 1 Fury being destroyed. How many were spirited off to
Britain post-war from Iraq?

Sorry, back to the subject of American Fury photos...

Furies

Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:53 am

Thanks Rob, I remember a photo in Flypast or Aeroplane and a paragraph
or 2. I'm being lazy...

Re: Furies

Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:32 am

airnutz wrote:How many were spirited off to
Britain post-war from Iraq?

Just the one, AFAIK, a 2-seater.

Incidentally, does anyone have an identity on the ex-Moroccan airframe at La Ferte Alais? There were supposed to be at least 4 airframes in Morocco in the late-70s, I believe that they were 'sold' several times over to Western collectors, one told me that he 'bought' 4 at one point. Any ideas as to where the others eventually went (at least one is still on display in Morocco, I believe)?

Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:28 am

Guys

There was a 'clean' FB10? fuselage stored outside the MAPS Museum , Akron Ohio 7/99. Anyone know the identity or where it is now?

Dave

p.s. One two seater taken to the UK and now 'gone to ground' at an RAF base, another two seater destroyed by bombs, at least 5 aircraft on a range ( two photographed), one still displayed at the racecourse outdoor museum, now confirmed to have survived the war so far, one Moroccan aircraft on display at an AFB ( photographed). All these examples can be seen in the current Classic Wings which features Furies from that area.

Re: Furies

Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:20 am

Mike wrote:Just the one, AFAIK, a 2-seater.



This one ?

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Martin

Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:44 am

Martin

Did you get the CD I sent ?

Dave

Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:59 am

Dave - PM sent :wink:
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