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Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:57 pm
A bit off topic, but a bunch of anti aircraft stuff here, including the 88. Bust open your wallet, IRA, life savings, etc, for the auction of the decade, Jacque Littlefield's Collection this weekend. I think he'd roll in his grave to see this collection parted out, but also understand there's no way the Collings Foundation could take everything either, nor without the funding from this, be able to move half of the collection that they are keeping:
http://auctionsamerica.com/catalog/2014/LC14/
Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:44 am
Some nice vehicles there..What happened to his Panther he was restoring?
Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:38 am
Rossco wrote:What happened to his Panther he was restoring?
Its going to the Collings Foundation

The Jaques M. Littlefield Collection will be housed in a new purpose built 60,000 + square foot facility on the grounds of the Collings Foundation complex. The collection will
integrate close to 80 of the most historically important vehicles and artifacts with the Collings Foundation’s vehicles and aircraft.
http://collingsfoundation.org/enews/ene ... r_MVTF.htm
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:30 am
Roger Cain wrote:I think he'd roll in his grave to see this collection parted out
My understanding from people who knew him is that he was well aware the family had no interest or intention of keeping the collection together when he was gone.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:30 pm
My ride home usually takes me within a mile or so of the Collings compound. Tonight I saw the image of a tank with the circle bar over it and the word museum under it. So it looks like the neighbors aren't to thrilled at the prospect of dozens of armored vehicles in the vicinity.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:52 pm
Funny thing we were only talking about the Communist / Syrian tanks they never used or kept the other week
Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf. H, chassis number 89457, was most likely built by Nibelungenwerke in February 1944. This vehicle was bought by Syria in the 1950s, probably from Czechoslovakia. It was captured by the Israelis during the Six Day War in 1967. After its capture, it was used as a training vehicle by the Israeli Army. It was then shipped to the Israeli Armor museum at Latrun in 1994. This tank was obtained from Israel by the MVTF in early 2003.
Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:09 am
Just a book end to the thread - prices realized from the auction - all in USD and add buyers % and removal costs
Saracen 1 - 30,000
Saracen 2 - 25,000
Ferret - 47,000
DUKW - 68,500
Anti tank carrier - 84,000
Stuart - 155,000
17lb gun - 55,000
M20 - 70,000
Valentine - 95,000
M50 Sherman - 255,000
M4A3 Sherman - 260,000
M16 Halftrack - 175,000
Mk 5 Centurion - 58,000
Mk 13 Centurion - 50,000
Saladin - 37,500
M3A1 Stuart - 135,000
M26 - 75,000
Flak 36 '88' - 110,000
FV432 - 19,000
Scud A - 300,000
M113 - 100,000
M4A3 - 250,000
M5 HST - 35,000
Grant - 240,000
M5 Israeli - 27,500
M5 Stuart - 270,000
Churchill Flail - 70,000
Stuart - 40,000
Sexton - 135,000
Staghound 1 - 55,000
Staghound 2 - 22,500
Staghound 3 - 40,000
Fox - 50,000
Ford GPW - 68,000
M4A2 - 300,000
8 Ton Sdkfz - 1,050,000
LVT (A) - 375,000 (Reserve not reached)
Panzer IV - 1,750,000 ( Reserve not reached)
M4A3E2 - 800,000 ( Reserve not reached)
Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:35 am
I a little surprised that some of those prices seem low. The Panzer IV seemed like a sure fire sell. I guess the economy is still pretty bad. I'm sure if this auction has happened in 2004-2005 it would have popped some crazy numbers.
Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:38 pm
Milmart Militaria wrote:Just a book end to the thread - prices realized from the auction - all in USD and add buyers % and removal costs
Thanks for the results
Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:17 pm
Re: the Pzkw Mk IV I read somewhere they were actually imported to Syria from France in the late 1940s. Supposedly there are French data plates on it.
Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:49 pm
$68K for a GPW?

Was this Ike's personal Jeep?
Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:16 pm
So, about $4.7 Million with that list alone. That will go a very long way to helping get the rest of the collection to the Collings Museum and building their new digs.
Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:18 pm
Local SF Examiner newspaper today reported that $10.24 million was spent on purchasing sales of nearly all the 122 military vehicles on auction. Bidders were from 10 countries, and 37 U.S. states.
Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:32 am
bdk wrote:$68K for a GPW?

Was this Ike's personal Jeep?
I am not sure where that number came from. The one in the auction went for way more than a GPW should, but it was not that high. The full auction results are posted on the Auctions America website (the listed prices include the buyers premium), so they were not the hammer prices. That is the thing with auctions, there were some deals, and there are items that went for way more than they should.
As for the Panzer IV, it probably would have sold if there would have been 2 people there to bid beyond the 1.75. Once it dropped to one bidder below the reserve, it was clear it would not sell. The high bidder has reached out, but for now it is an item that we are going to keep with the core of the collection.
Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:43 am
Roger Cain wrote:Local SF Examiner newspaper today reported that $10.24 million was spent on purchasing sales of nearly all the 122 military vehicles on auction. Bidders were from 10 countries, and 37 U.S. states.
Again I think their math is a little off. Looks like they may have included the high bids for the items that did not meet reserve. If someone wanted an exact number, the results are all posted so someone could add them all up. Just keep in mind that the total would include the buyers premium which does not go to The Collings Foundation.
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