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Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:40 am

Chris Brame wrote:Well, don't just sit there - let's start speculating who the "European buyer" could be! :twisted:

No need to speculate further. :wink: The new owners have revealed themselves:
http://boschungglobal.com/messerschmitt.php

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:32 am

Warbirdnerd wrote:
Chris Brame wrote:Well, don't just sit there - let's start speculating who the "European buyer" could be! :twisted:

No need to speculate further. :wink: The new owners have revealed themselves:
http://boschungglobal.com/messerschmitt.php


Some of the names mentioned in the article at that link are a bit cryptic, so just to help folks out.

46 Aviation of Sion, Switzerland, which will be getting a single- and the 2-seater, is the company of Emiliano del Buono, an aerobatic display pilot. Warbirds already in their collection are a Yak-9U and C-6305. http://www.46aviation.com/web/index.php

Boschung Global makes B63, an energy drink that competes with Red Bull. Relatively new entrant to the US market. It sponsors the 46 Aviation Yak along with a few other sponsors. According to the article linked to by Warbirdnerd, Boschung Global Aviation also "sells and leases aircraft and specializes in Warbirds," but I think they may have entered this business approximately yesterday. It also operates snow-related services such as municipal and airport snow clearing and de-icing.

August

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:52 am

Thanks for the additional information August. I haven't heard of any of these companies before.

I am happy to see that they will be restored to flight. I would have liked to have seen the words "Hispano" and "Buchon" mentioned once or twice in the description though. :lol:

So two energy drink companies with warbird collections? Looks like we have a cold (beverage) war in the works.

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:40 pm

k5083 wrote:Boschung Global makes B63, an energy drink that competes with Red Bull. It also operates snow-related services such as municipal and airport snow clearing and de-icing.
August


So it's an energy drink and a de-icer? :lol: :vom:

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:43 pm

On September 21, 2014, Hispano Buchon (HA-1112-M1L), s/n 220, N4109G, was pulled out of its hangar on at Connie Edwards' ranch for the first time since 1973.

"After a thorough servicing and pre-oiling of the engine, the <Buchon’s> Merlin engine fired up for the first time in 41 years" -46aviation.com

Check out the YouTube video of the first engine run up and landing gear check.
You can skip the fluff and go straight to the good part at 1:56:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmPw1GEpveU#t=109

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:49 pm

In 33 years of messing about with warbirds, I have never seen anybody swing the gear with the engine running.

Woulda been a lot more entertaining video if it had jumped the jacks. Maybe next time...
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Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:54 pm

It happens from time to time .... a long time ago as well.

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Photo courtesy of an unknown Luftwaffe photographer from the 40's.

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Photo courtesy of another unknown Luftwaffe photographer from the 40's.

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:06 pm

Must be a Messershmitt thing. Thanks, Mark.

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:15 pm

Much welcome Rob, but now I'm thinking would the gear only retract when the engine was running? Not a 109 expert (or any other warbird for that matter)

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:23 pm

I was hoping you would come back with a picture of a Mustang running on jacks!

Usually, you use a hydraulic cart, or "mule", in order to test the retractible landing gear. It is a cart with an electric motor driving a hydraulic pump. You tap into the system to provide pressure without running the engine. Same pump works with Cessna's or Mustangs, so most FBO's have them.

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:53 pm

In the moving Battle Hymn, they lifted a Mustang with a crane and ran it with the gear up to do the rocket firing scenes...

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:27 pm

Platinum wrote:Sitting around drinking beer on friday afternoon with Connie while it poured rain at the ranch, Connie bet me $100 that the Messerschmitt could fire up its engine in 6 prop blades. I took the bet and the next morning we aired up the tires, pulled it outside, pre oiled the engine, added fuel, and it fired up in 6 blades.

I lost the bet....

Simon Brown
Platinum Fighter Sales


You have to admit, Connie had style.

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:20 am

RobC wrote:In 33 years of messing about with warbirds, I have never seen anybody swing the gear with the engine running.

Woulda been a lot more entertaining video if it had jumped the jacks. Maybe next time...



I wouldn't consider it entertaining, but it certainly was unusual. Never seen that in my 20+ years of fixing airplanes.

Kinda made my skin crawl, seeing the engine running, the main tires only an inch off the ground, the entire weight supported by two thin jacks under the fuselage, and then watching the gear retract asymmetrically. I wonder if someone inadvertantly leaning on a wingtip could have dumped it on the ground.

I repaired a Cessna 210 that fell off jacks. The hidden damage was extensive.

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:05 am

Mark Allen M wrote:It happens from time to time .... a long time ago as well.

Image
Photo courtesy of an unknown Luftwaffe photographer from the 40's.

Image
Photo courtesy of another unknown Luftwaffe photographer from the 40's.


It does not seem anybody of the guys in any of the two photos is excited or fearful at all. Even as the 1. is made under winterly conditions, jacks on snow (maybe even ice underneath). So it does not seem a very unnormal or extremely out of the ordinary way of doing things. On the other hand it was during war, maybe they were just taking greater risks in order to get things done quickly.

Michael

Re: Spitfire and Buchons for sale

Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:22 am

RobC wrote:And sold nine Buchon when only advertised six.


I thought there was only six...
ImageAerial Visuals - Location Dossier - Wilson Connie Edwards Ranch

Does anyone have the IDs on the other three? I am guessing that the total 9 is a mis-report and that it is actually only six.

Does anyone know how the airframes are being distributed between these two companies?...
ImageAerial Visuals - Location Dossier - 46 Aviation
ImageAerial Visuals - Location Dossier - Boschung Global

Mike
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