Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:52 pm
I guess we enthusiasts should count our blessings there are a few folks such as P Allen who do this kind of stuff. Good for him and I hope he keeps his interests in WWII history going for a long time.
This photo may give a sense of scale of that big boat.
Some of the poor souls that most likely went down with her.
(Emperor Hirohito of Japan (front row, center), with officers of the Imperial Japanese Navy, on board the Japanese battleship Musashi off Yokosuka Naval Base)
This photo may give a sense of scale of that big boat.
Some of the poor souls that most likely went down with her.
(Emperor Hirohito of Japan (front row, center), with officers of the Imperial Japanese Navy, on board the Japanese battleship Musashi off Yokosuka Naval Base)
Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:08 pm
SaxMan wrote:I hope .. he heads up to the San Bernadino Straits and looks for the ships sunk in the Samar battle.
Hear, hear. The story of Taffy 3 deserves to be told and retold.
Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:10 pm
Pat Carry wrote:I have been reading about the USS Hornet's (CV-8) sinking at Guadacanal. Has this ship ever been found and photographed? How about the Wasp?
No, neither one. Not yet, anyway.
Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:17 pm
Thank you Paul Allen! Now go home and finish your B-17E already. 
We can also count our blessings that the Japanese wasted all those resources on a battleship instead of building a couple more carriers or submarines!
We can also count our blessings that the Japanese wasted all those resources on a battleship instead of building a couple more carriers or submarines!
Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:05 am
TBDude wrote:Pat Carry wrote:I have been reading about the USS Hornet's (CV-8) sinking at Guadacanal. Has this ship ever been found and photographed? How about the Wasp?
No, neither one. Not yet, anyway.
I've never been able to get back to tracking down just HOW this bell is where it is.
http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_di ... age_22.htm
Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:44 am
Mark Allen M wrote:I guess we enthusiasts should count our blessings there are a few folks such as P Allen who do this kind of stuff. Good for him and I hope he keeps his interests in WWII history going for a long time.
[quote="Chris Brame"]Thank you Paul Allen! Now go home and finish your B-17E already. [quote]
Ditto, neat to see him use his little pleasure boat for interesting historical work instead of just wining and dining. Good on him, thank you very much.
My next request is for a Stuka....
Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:35 pm
Can't wait to see more photos of this ship, especially the gun turrets...
Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:20 pm
p51 wrote:Can't wait to see more photos of this ship, especially the gun turrets...
Depending on how the ship sank, the turrets might not be there. The turrets are held in place by gravity and if the ship rolled over, the turrets would have fallen free and could be miles for the main wreckage.
Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:27 pm
Matt Gunsch wrote:p51 wrote:Can't wait to see more photos of this ship, especially the gun turrets...
Depending on how the ship sank, the turrets might not be there. The turrets are held in place by gravity and if the ship rolled over, the turrets would have fallen free and could be miles for the main wreckage.
I've sometimes wondered how difficult it would be to raise a complete turret that fell free during sinking. A turret from the Bismarck would make an impressive display once cleaned up, though I'm guessing that the entire Bismarck wreck site is a protected war grave along with the problem that it's even deeper than the Titanic wreck.
Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:58 pm
DoraNineFan wrote:Matt Gunsch wrote:p51 wrote:Can't wait to see more photos of this ship, especially the gun turrets...
Depending on how the ship sank, the turrets might not be there. The turrets are held in place by gravity and if the ship rolled over, the turrets would have fallen free and could be miles for the main wreckage.
I've sometimes wondered how difficult it would be to raise a complete turret that fell free during sinking. A turret from the Bismarck would make an impressive display once cleaned up, though I'm guessing that the entire Bismarck wreck site is a protected war grave along with the problem that it's even deeper than the Titanic wreck.
And the cranes used to place those turrets during construction were big enough, and considered valuable enough that the four of them were divvied up as war booty at the end of WWII. The US, UK, France and USSR each got one
Re: Musashi Wreck Discovered (March 2015)
Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:28 pm
shrike wrote: And the cranes used to place those turrets during construction were big enough, and considered valuable enough that the four of them were divvied up as war booty at the end of WWII. The US, UK, France and USSR each got one
One of them was in Long Beach and was used to lift the HK-1 onto the barge so it could be moved into the dome. It was named Herman the German.