Warbird Information Exchange

Got a new batch of photos from Leon Cleaver, taken April 27, 1979 at Paul Pfoutz's farm in West Alexandria, Ohio:












N70030 (42-42552) is now with Bruce Koch in Michigan.

N63656 (c/n 2972) is with David Beulke of South Dakota but there are photos from 2010 that show it dismantled with another BT at Anoka, MN:
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/ph ... 23861.html

N52879: No info comes up on this one; the N-number was last on a Bird A.

N63838 (c/n 2276) is with Kurt Von Graff in New Jersey, still flying and still wearing a red checkered paint job: http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N63838.html

N65750 (41-22956) in the background behind '838 is also listed with Bruce Koch:
http://bt-13.org/bt-13a-41-22956/

UC-45J BuNo 44580 (N20003) appears to have been broken up; Aerial Visuals lists it as a cockpit display with the Beechcraft Museum in Tennessee, then with J.W. Duff Aircraft Salvage in Denver:
http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDos ... rial=35437

Interestingly, bt-13.org also lists Louise Pfoutz as owning the sister ship to my friend's 6-seat BT-13 conversion:
http://bt-13.org/bt-13a-43-10640/

Have a fun and safe Independence Day weekend!

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

Sorry - double post

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

Chris,
Re:

From USCAR Jan 1968...
N52879; BT-13A, built 1942, c/no. 6528. Registered owner in Tutwiler, MS. Noted as an "Ineligible Aircraft" - i.e., no inspection reports received for more than 13 months.

Presumably rebuilt and restored since 1968 as according to the FAA website Convair BT-13A, c/no. 6528 is currently registered with an owner in Indianapolis as N413BT.

From Vultee resources c/no. 6528 was BT-13A 41-22450.

Tony Broadhurst

Thanks Tony! Do you have USAAF serials for c/ns 2276 and 2972?
Photos of 41-22450/N52879/N413BT here:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/search.php?q=N413BT&u=reg
Looking pretty sharp! Wrong tail number but it ain't my airplane, yada yada yada...

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

Re:

Chris,
This is the information I have..
BT-13A c/no. 2276 = 41-11266. The AAF history card records 41-11266 was delivered to Corpus Christi (Navy) 10/18/41. I also have a note (source unrecorded) that it became SNV-1 Bu.3083.

BT-13A c/no. 2972 = 41-10655.



I have seen a number photographs of surviving Fairchild PTs were the c/no has been adopted as the AAF serial, despite the true AAF serial number being recorded on the FAA copy of the original bill of sale. There was a PT-23 imported to the UK in the late 1980's similarly misidentified but the owner was convinced it was correct

Tony.

I can't tell you how much I enjoy the photos from Leon. Its really interesting how some of these planes got "out in the field".

Thanks Leon!

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Found this on the UC-45J


Beech sn 8142, N20003, BuNo 44580, SNB-5, UC-45J
At Tullahoma Regional Airport, KTHA, Tullahoma, TN, Oct. 2005

The display card gives you recent info on this SNB-5. The first Twin Beech I flew (1963) was an SNB-5 and this panel brings back memories. From Baugher I gather that it was USAAF C-45F, 44-47733 or 34 that went to the Navy as a JRB-4. It is one of a group of 20 that were remanufactured into SNB-5's, and later redesignated the UC-45J.

Twin Beech SB-5 N20003 at Tullahoma



What a surprise to see the aft fuselage section of BuNo 44580 at Duff Aircraft, Denver, CO, in July 2011! Somebody had a project going here and was mating two aircraft, but apparently gave up. I have no idea about what aircraft the front part of this bird is/was, but it was once a high-gross Beech with short stacks, full gear doors and so forth..

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Thanks Nathan! One of the placards from the cockpit display mentioned that the plane was donated to Danville (IL) Junior College in 1969; I checked all their yearbooks from that period on archive.org and there was no mention of this C-45 in their aviation program, just some GA Piper and Cessna a/c.

By the way, I wonder how its left main gear got twisted like that?

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

Bad landing? Towing it out to the field? Could be anything. Too bad it would have been a nice static display. All those markings are attractive.

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double post.

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Impressive set of photos.

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The nose art/aviation artist and general lunatic from Houston, Texas http://www.jasonbarnettartist.com

Yes, indeed - Thanks to Leon for taking those photos.
Jason, did you see my other BT find posting?
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56171

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

Just heard from Leon today, with a couple new additions:



N57912 was exported to England several years ago.


Anyone have the ID and status of this Lockheed 12?

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All right, Mister Dorfmann, start pullin'!
Pilot: "Flap switch works hard in down position."
Mechanic: "Flap switch checked OK. Pilot needs more P.T." - Flight report, TB-17G 42-102875 (Hobbs AAF)

It amazes me that even back then some people had an eye for what was important while other people would consider it junk. What a PT-22 and BT-13 go for these days.....................investments well made! Thanks to the likes of Mr. and Mrs. Pfoutz! People who helped fuel the start of the warbird movement!

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