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Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:30 pm

flightsimer wrote:
Chappie wrote:She really turned out nice. I love the second A2A shot, it looks somewhat 1970ish over the "jungle" below.
Chappie

I was just going to say, normally I would agree with L-4 about haze detracting from photos, but the haze in these photos actually looks like the light smoke you see in many original Vietnam photos. I like it.

I'm with them - that second photo looks in-country! I'd have that as a poster on the hangar wall. :drink3:

Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:14 pm

Nice job and finish on your bird. looks great!

Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:27 pm

L-4Pilot wrote:
Thanks Chappie, come see us when you get a chance and we will let you fly her. She is slow but stately. :)


I'll see what I can do in 2016. You still have the L-4 and L-19? I got my tailwheel endorsement in August!! :lol:

Chappie

Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:53 pm

Chappie wrote:
L-4Pilot wrote:
Thanks Chappie, come see us when you get a chance and we will let you fly her. She is slow but stately. :)


I'll see what I can do in 2016. You still have the L-4 and L-19? I got my tailwheel endorsement in August!! :lol:

Chappie


Well I guess it is a good thing that all I have currently is the T-41B....with a newly minted Tail Wheel Pilot coming my way. :)

Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:27 pm

Installed the Emergency door release pins and cable today.

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Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:16 pm

darn that A2A shot is classic!!!!!!! The Stencil work is beautiful if I don't say so myself pop2

Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:32 am

Well done, a great looking ship.

And thanks for putting your time and effort, not to mention money, into an unusual project.

It's good to see a reminder that not all warbirds are the glamorous fighters and bombers.
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Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:41 am

Great looking indeed!
Thanks also, for taking us along on the journey of her recreation.
This has been a great thread. Long may she run. :drinkers:

Andy

Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:25 am

Thanks for the kind remarks Gentlemen. I wanted to share this information on Operation Water Pump and Operation Barrel Roll along with some photos of a T-28 brought back from Laos still in the original Coin Gray camouflage paint. This T-28 is being sold on ebay by a salvage company. A lot of history with this combat veteran.

One photo shows the sliding panel on the side of the T-28 where the National Insignia could be changed from US to Laotian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barrel_Roll

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"The next stage of the military evolution took place during mid-March 1964, when the CIA began Project Water Pump, a program to train Laotian, Thai, Hmong, and Air America aircrews in flight and maintenance of U.S.-supplied AT-28 Trojan ground-attack aircraft. This training was conducted by Detachment 6, 1st Air Commando Wing personnel at Udon Royal Thai Air Force Base, Thailand.[17] The first mission in support of Vang Pao's forces took place on 25 May.[18] Eventually, the Royal Laotian Air Force would consist of five wings of ten aircraft each.[19] Water Pump could never produce enough pilots, however, since graduation rates barely exceeded the death rate of graduates, who simply flew until they died.[20] The American "civilian pilots" program was phased out in 1966 and Detachment 6 (which continued its training program) was absorbed by the 606th Air Commando Squadron in the same year.[21] The air program did, however, create the world's only guerrilla army with air superiority."

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Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:11 pm

L-4Pilot wrote:Thanks for the kind remarks Gentlemen. I wanted to share this information on Operation Water Pump and Operation Barrel Roll along with some photos of a T-28 brought back from Laos still in the original Coin Gray camouflage paint. This T-28 is being sold on ebay by a salvage company. A lot of history with this combat veteran.

One photo shows the sliding panel on the side of the T-28 where the National Insignia could be changed from US to Laotian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barrel_Roll

Quote:
"The next stage of the military evolution took place during mid-March 1964, when the CIA began Project Water Pump, a program to train Laotian, Thai, Hmong, and Air America aircrews in flight and maintenance of U.S.-supplied AT-28 Trojan ground-attack aircraft. This training was conducted by Detachment 6, 1st Air Commando Wing personnel at Udon Royal Thai Air Force Base, Thailand.[17] The first mission in support of Vang Pao's forces took place on 25 May.[18] Eventually, the Royal Laotian Air Force would consist of five wings of ten aircraft each.[19] Water Pump could never produce enough pilots, however, since graduation rates barely exceeded the death rate of graduates, who simply flew until they died.[20] The American "civilian pilots" program was phased out in 1966 and Detachment 6 (which continued its training program) was absorbed by the 606th Air Commando Squadron in the same year.[21] The air program did, however, create the world's only guerrilla army with air superiority."

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Man, this would be an AWESOME pick-up for a team that specializes in Vietnam-era displays... doesn't the Collings Foundation have a pretty significant Vietnam contingent? I can't recall seeing a T-28 more worthy of restoration to airworthy status... oh the stories it could tell!

Great find, thanks for sharing it!

Lynn

Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:56 am

I wanted to thank Aviation History Magazine for their coverage of our project. The small aircraft are sometimes overlooked.

http://www.historynet.com/cessna-mescalero.htm

Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:50 pm

I couldn't/wouldn't have done it without WIX.

Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:34 pm

We finally painted and installed the interior emergency door release handles along with most of the Fluid Line Identification labels for fuel. instrument air, hydraulic etc.


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Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:06 pm

Stephan Wilkinson wrote:I couldn't/wouldn't have done it without WIX.

Hooray! :D

Re: And So it Begins......T-41B Restoration

Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:51 am

Years ago you could find rolls of the Fluid Line ID tags/labels from WW II and the Vietnam War but I guess they are all pretty much gone now.

We ended up having to make our own for the T-41B.
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