Warbird Information Exchange

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on this site are the responsibility of the poster and do not reflect the views of the management.
It is currently Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:16 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Classic Wings Magazine WWII Naval Aviation Research Pacific Luftwaffe Resource Center
When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:57 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member

Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm
Posts: 7826
... where a USAAF B-17 & B-24 storage area was located. For both allied and axis aircraft who felt it necessary (for many reasons) to land in Switzerland. The war would then be over for them - the photos here were taken immediately after WW2.

Image

Image

Image
Interesting 'display' of USAAF heavy bombers.

_________________
Zero Surprise!!...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 1:17 pm 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 08, 2004 2:59 pm
Posts: 1715
Location: Safford, Az
Any close ups of the two on display with the Jungmeister?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 1:34 pm 
Online
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!

Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:19 pm
Posts: 1601
steve dickey wrote:
Any close ups of the two on display with the Jungmeister?


I think it's a Jungmann. Interesting set.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 9:18 am 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member

Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm
Posts: 7826
steve dickey wrote:
Any close ups of the two on display with the Jungmeister?

None that I have found other than these. No specifics on these photos other that they all landed in Switzerland. This chapter in WW2 history has always been quite interesting. Lots of stories of both allied and axis pilots and crews mingling together once they were grounded there. Not sure on the credibility of these stories. Fascinating though if indeed it happened.

Image

Image
Rows of snow covered B-17's & B-24's,sit in storage after landing in Switzerland

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image
Any idea what this states? ... guess I could Google translate it

_________________
Zero Surprise!!...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:14 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:58 am
Posts: 51
Quote:
Image
Any idea what this states? ... guess I could Google translate it



It says:
The last Flying Fortress in the World
for exhibition in St. Gallen

Eric

_________________
Greetings,
Eric
Zeist, the Netherlands


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:44 am 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!

Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:37 pm
Posts: 1380
The text on the trailer is a moving and storage company in "Zorich".


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:55 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:05 am
Posts: 397
Mark Allen M wrote:
steve dickey wrote:
Any close ups of the two on display with the Jungmeister?


Image


Was this an atempt at using the radar to track incoming aircraft??
I have never seen this type of use before!!

Sean


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 12:56 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member

Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm
Posts: 7826
Here's some more interesting details and video on that "B-17, St Gallen"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwVf4vEZ0BA

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22B-17 ... kQ_AUIBygC

_________________
Zero Surprise!!...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 1:03 pm 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member

Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm
Posts: 7826
This video is fascinating as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8eeXW5J1o0

_________________
Zero Surprise!!...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 5:02 pm 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:23 pm
Posts: 2347
Location: Atlanta, GA
I guess I should know the answer, but I don't ...

I thought those airplanes & crews were interred in Switzerland for the duration. So, why the maintenance work and test hops? And the enlisted guys doing the work, were they former gunners & flight engineers, if not, who were they? Guess I don't know as much about the outcome of those airplanes and crews as I thought I did.

Ken

_________________
"Take care of the little things and the big things will take care of themselves."


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 5:15 pm 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:11 pm
Posts: 1917
Location: Pacific Northwest USA, via North Florida
Mark Allen M wrote:
Lots of stories of both allied and axis pilots and crews mingling together once they were grounded there. Not sure on the credibility of these stories. Fascinating though if indeed it happened.
A friend of mine wanted to write a story about a Swiss girl with a US and a German pilot each vying for her affections in such a case as that, both interned for the duration. The problem was, once he started researching the details, he couldn't find any basis for the stories of the crews mingling together in Switzerland.

_________________
Life member, 91st BG Memorial Association
Owner, 1944 Willys MB #366014
Former REMF (US Army, O3)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 5:25 pm 
Offline
KiwiZac
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:33 am
Posts: 1469
Location: Blenheim, NZ
CoastieJohn wrote:
The text on the trailer is a moving and storage company in "Zorich".

I'm guessing it's "ZURICH" but with big umlauts in the U geek

_________________
Zac in NZ
#avgeek, modelbuilder, photographer, writer. Callsign: "HANDBAG".
https://linktr.ee/zacyates

"It's his plane, he spent the money to restore it, he can do with it what he wants. I will never understand what's hard to comprehend about this." - kalamazookid, 20/08/2013
"The more time you spend around warbirds the sooner you learn nothing, is simple." - JohnB, 24/02/22


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 11:45 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 11:36 am
Posts: 569
Location: Shalimar, FL
I have read innumerable articles about the aircraft and crews that made the decision to divert to Switzerland due to excessive damage and/or crew injuries. Brave men indeed.

However, my question is in these images, the aircraft look relatively undamaged. In a few you can see feathered props etc; but, not major damage. Were they repaired by the Swiss?

_________________
Cheers!

Lance Jones


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 7:53 pm 
Offline
1000+ Posts!
1000+ Posts!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:11 pm
Posts: 1917
Location: Pacific Northwest USA, via North Florida
Ever read this? http://www.amazon.com/Strangers-Strange ... 0897472780
I've met a couple of vets over the years who were on missions that skirted very close to the Swiss border and they all told me the briefings were VERY specific to not only not go close to the border and for the love of God NOT shoot or bomb across it, but that the hints were made that if someone decided to call it an early war, there were aircraft ready to 'do something' to stop them.
I have no idea how accurate or realistic those threats were, but I've heard that from way too many vets to think they're all making that story up!

_________________
Life member, 91st BG Memorial Association
Owner, 1944 Willys MB #366014
Former REMF (US Army, O3)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:41 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun May 08, 2016 7:52 pm
Posts: 19
I think if you look this up you'll find the crews just had enough and decided to land in Switzerland . You'll notice there is very little damage to them and one engine feathered was no reason to land in Switzerland . Many many of them made it home on three. Many many crews were being lost at this time, two hundred planes going out, maybe fifty or less returning. Many were lost forming up in weather!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot] and 48 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group