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Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:38 pm
I saw this on facebook but I have my doubts. Personally, off the top of my head I can't think of an example of a flying Luftwaffe aircraft at the moment that is worth $5,000,000. The only possible exceptions I can think of would both be in Paul Allen's collection (being his original FW-190 and his soon-to-be-airworthy ME-262) and I don't think his stuff is for sale. Fortunately for us, money doesn't seem to mean much to him. All of the recent ME-109 and FlugWerk-190's that have sold have been pretty far short of the $5,000,000 mark (that I've seen at least).
That combined with the recent report in Air Classics showing a Yak 52TW modified for the movie with external IMAX cameras make me think there must be some pieces of information being crossed and incorrectly combined.
That's just my guess, which is nothing more than a guess.
Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:33 pm
In this day of CGI, I can't see anyone wrecking an expensive aircraft for a girl.
Judging by all the silly comic book films out there, the film makers and audiences don't seem to mind artificial images.
Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:37 pm
Purposely wreck a Warbird? Boycott his films!
Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:32 am
Chris Fahey said this is a false story. More internet snopes stuff , Like the one about the Montana minor taking out two burglarizing Mexicans with a gun and the 2005 non texting New York corvette driver who crashed into the back of a semi while speeding on the shoulder "because texting kills. "
Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:34 am
According to Indie Revolver, the studio recently forked over $5 million for a WWII plane, said to be a German Luftwafee.
"Take THAT, Mistuh Hitluh!!"
Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:31 am
Hey, they destroyed that PBY for a low budget Nic Cage movie...
Too soon?
Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:39 pm
mexchiwa wrote:Hey, they destroyed that PBY for a low budget Nic Cage movie...
Too soon?

Aw man, now I'm sad.
Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:51 pm
Here's a thought in a purely hypothetical way. What if an owner/group of a (let's say) Hispano Buchon, which perhaps is not yet in flyable condition and is valued somewhere in the six figures, gets and offer from a Hollywood bigwig in the five million range. Let's say the owner/group has other warbirds waiting for restoration but with little or no funds. What's to stop the owner/group from taking the offer, well knowing the Buchon will be prepared to be destroyed. Why wouldn't the owner/group seriously think about accepting the offer? The owner/group clearly makes out nicely at the expense of losing a Buchon. I'm not convinced the owner/group would lose too much sleep over a Buchon being destroyed at the benefit of such an offer. Would the owner/group take some heat from the warbird community? of course they would, but again, I'm not convinced he/she/they would lose too much sleep over it.
Just a though ...
Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:41 pm
Mark Allen M wrote:Here's a thought in a purely hypothetical way. What if an owner/group of a (let's say) Hispano Buchon, which perhaps is not yet in flyable condition and is valued somewhere in the six figures, gets and offer from a Hollywood bigwig in the five million range. Let's say the owner/group has other warbirds waiting for restoration but with little or no funds. What's to stop the owner/group from taking the offer, well knowing the Buchon will be prepared to be destroyed. Why wouldn't the owner/group seriously think about accepting the offer? The owner/group clearly makes out nicely at the expense of losing a Buchon. I'm not convinced the owner/group would lose too much sleep over a Buchon being destroyed at the benefit of such an offer. Would the owner/group take some heat from the warbird community? of course they would, but again, I'm not convinced he/she/they would lose too much sleep over it.
Just a though ...
For $5m, I'd commission a few fiberglass copies that could be intentionally destroyed... they all crash the same anyways. That said....how is your "hypothetical" any different than the well-to-do pilot who gets into a rare war bird and destroys it? Aren't they both one in the same?
Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:36 pm
menards wrote:For $5m, I'd commission a few fiberglass copies that could be intentionally destroyed... they all crash the same anyways. That said....how is your "hypothetical" any different than the well-to-do pilot who gets into a rare war bird and destroys it? Aren't they both one in the same?
Seems in this case Hollywood (if ligit.) has no interest in fiberglass or CGI. They (he) wants a $5m warbird to destroy. That's what I read. As for crashing the same way? How's that work? One's fiberglass, one's the real deal, I'm sure the results would look quite different.
My "hypothetical" to your unfortunate "reality" are quite different in this case as well. One is possibly preparing to purposely destroy a warbird for a movie, the other usually is not the result of a well-to-do pilot
intending to destroy his warbird. Other than that your results are the same, but not one in the same. If that made any sense.
I'm sure this is all BS for some strange reason. Not sure the point or reason in drumming up a story like this if it's not true. Who's supposed to be the fall guy here? Is this director trying to upset the warbird/historical community by threatening to destroy a warbird? An item we enthusiasts view on the level of valuable artwork?
I don't see the point ..... but nothing surprises me anymore. There's a real possibility of having Donald Trump as our new President.
Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:32 am
I think this has been pretty much debunked elsewhere. But to the reasoning that enough money would persuade someone to sell a warbird to be deliberately wrecked if the price were $5 mill. or so I don't see it. Sure a Buchon will probably never be worth that much but I doubt any Hollywood types would spend that much for an asset just to wreck it. People I have known who have dealt with Hollywood in this sphere usually complain that Hollywood wants to pay too little whether outright or charter.
Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:42 am
Considering how the film industry works, I have hight doubt about this story.
For the filming of Amelia in South Africa, the Electra planned to come all the way from France was a few weeks before its depature cancelled during a short time because one productor discovered than some Beechs were available in South Africa and "Hey men, all these twin engined vintage plane are the same".
It required a lot of persuasion by the film crew to gain the greenlight to use the "correct Electra".
So, 5.000.000 dollars to crash an historic plane... no
Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:43 am
Lets hope you guys are right ....
Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:16 pm
The story of Dunkirk is all about the heroic actions of British civilians sailing their small boats into battle to evacuate British and French troops, along with the impressive rear guard actions of the French and British armies. The "Luftwafee"

was only a bit player in this drama. I don't know why they're even in the movie.
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