Stuka Restorations

[Pogmusic]

At one point the Sinsheim museum had the remains of a Stuka recovered from the Med.
http://sinsheim.technik-museum.de/en/military

[sandiego89]

Really hope to see a flyer someday!

I don't.
Maybe it's the heretic in me, but something that rare, I feel, shouldn't be flown even if someone managed to get one airworthy. There are what, only two complete ones left on earth, right?

p51, I was NOT advocating to fire up the Chicago or London Stuka and fly one of them. I never said that- that would indeed be foolish. They will and should remain firmly where they are in a museum. I do not feel that sole survivors, or very rare types (lets say less than ~3), should ever fly. Now data plate restorations, or those incorporating a few bits of wreckage are a different story. As others have said any project using the bits we know about would be 90%+ new metal.

Yes I want to see a (new) flyer.

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Nathan, there are other Il-2 survivors, so I have no problem with them flying theirs.

[DoraNineFan]

The completeness of that Croat/Italian one is amazing, but is it in seawater?

I have total confidence that the FHC example will be the first "warbird" one to fly, and that others could follow.

Yes that is in saltwater. It would be a total rebuild with exception of a few items, perhaps. A lot could be learned and put into modern CAD technology to aid other restorations just by preserving this example for a museum as well. Hopefully somebody will make a deal with the Italians/Croats.

[sandiego89]

.......A lot could be learned and put into modern CAD technology to aid other restorations just by preserving this example for a museum as well..

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I note from our thread last year that the Stuka in Chicago was taken down last year for "cleaning", but also had very careful scanning taken inside and out for "research and educational purposes" by neomek- a company that does 3D measuring but also aerospace manufacturing for "legacy" parts and specialized manufacturing as per their website. It could have been purely the museum doing it, but I also imagine someone planning a Stuka build could have funded it on the agreement to share that data with the museum. win/win. I also note many parts were taken off the aircraft for scanning. The pattern me-262 was critical for the new build 262's, and CAD type measurements would be critical for a Stuka rebuild, or data plate build.

http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... 5&start=15

from the company doing the scanning:

http://www.neomek.com/company/news/3d-scanning-stuka/

[p51]

I was NOT advocating to fire up the Chicago or London Stuka and fly one of them. I never said that- that would indeed be foolish.

I never said you said this specifically and the thought never crossed my mind on either current complete example as you wouldn't be able to fly either of them regardless how much money you had. I assumed you meant one of the restorations mentioned earlier, like Paul Allen's, perhaps.

Yes I want to see a (new) flyer.

Yeah, if you mean a newly-made one like the new ME-262s, then, well, I agree fully with you there.
I got buzzed by a scale replica Stuka at a WW2 re-enactment in new Orleans in 1992, but they wouldn't let them fly high enough to dive and use the siren on it. I have no idea what happened to it after that as I never saw it at an airshow ever again after that.
I did find this video of a Russian-made replica: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIRH9ar67nI

[Warbird Kid]

I have no idea what happened to it after that as I never saw it at an airshow ever again after that.

This one?

I believe your thinking of the Louis Langhurst replica. I believe its up in New Hampshire or Maine now. You can see it at the Collings Foundation annual "Battle for the Airfield" usually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Langhurst


There's also this full scale static replica in New Zealand.

[JohnB]

With the wrecks and substantial wreckage being recovered, you'd think there would be enough for a flying rebuild/restoration.

The "big money" warbird collectors must not be interested in the type.
Certainly it's not a "sexy" fighter, perhaps it's see as "too Nazi" in this age of pc?

[Michel Lemieux]

Now this is a few years old and it was posted here.

I remember a company working on reproducting parts and drawings either in eastern Europe or even Germany.

There was a picture of a whole backyard of Jumo's in the brushes....

Does that ring any bells?

[gregv]

Now this is a few years old and it was posted here.

I remember a company working on reproducting parts and drawings either in eastern Europe or even Germany.

There was a picture of a whole backyard of Jumo's in the brushes....

Does that ring any bells?

It does indeed! Merten's Warbirds, there's a dead link here on this forum:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=191015

Can't find any new website, so no idea what's going on. I also recall a few pics of several (like at least a half dozen) bare Jumo blocks sitting in the weeds.

gv

Edit: here's the previous Wix post:

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=30965

[Michel Lemieux]

Tks Greg....good news my brains isn't mush yet!

[DaveM2]

Last I heard Phil sold all his Ju 87 stuff

[Zac Yates]

The NZ-based, full-scale replica in Warbird Kid's post is only static and is being rebuilt for display in the museum at Omaka. I can't wait to see it completed - it's quite an imposing thing in the flesh.

perhaps it's see as "too Nazi" in this age of pc?

I have thought about that too, the idea of an (unannounced) Stuka/1:1 repro screaming down to trigger some airshow pyrotechnics sounds very cool to an enthusiast like me but to some it may be seen as insensitive. Am I right in recalling there were some issues around a Hiroshima reenactment by Fifi some years ago?

Last I heard Phil sold all his Ju 87 stuff

...to FHC?

[quemerford]

At the end of the day majority of wrecks found these days and the restorations that follow are practically rebuilds anyway. Gone are the days of pulling something out of the ground or jungle and having a nice wreck to restore. I would be grateful for a reproduction aircraft.

...at any time of the day.